Starting Defense

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  1. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    I'm no expert... but he looks pretty polished in that small sample size.
     
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  2. mrjet80

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    We’ll have to wait and see with Qwon - if he can stay on the field. The converted safeties I really don’t see lasting long unless for depth purposes.

    Let me put it this way - I think adding Reed and Sauce improves the secondary by leaps and bounds. I would like to see JD do something similar in regards to the LBs.

    As for this year 2022 I guess we’re gonna have to hope Kwon stays healthy and I’m hoping an improved pass rush helps as well.
     
  3. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    Still need hard hitters over the middle.
     
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  4. REVISion

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    The more time passes the more convinced I am that Saleh has Nick Bosa to thank for most of his career and reputation as a defensive mind.

    Quincy is an issue. Oh wow he hits hard, who cares? Plays with way too little discipline. 15 yard penalties are game changers, they should basically never happen. That's the kind of penalty Belichick would cut a guy for.
     
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  5. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Hey sorry Roach...not following your post

    Who / what are you referring to about
     
  6. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Referring to about.
     
  7. Noam

    Noam Well-Known Member

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    Interesting to see JJ and Clemons getting reps inside at 3 tech against Philly. Clemons with 7 pressures a sack and 2 run stops had a pretty impressive game. Also interesting to see Zuniga build on his great camp with a pretty dominant game with 5 pressures and should throw T. Smart in there with an unexpected good game. I have to believe everyone assumed Zuniga was gone and cutting him was not require any thought. I don't see a path for him to make the roster but he has suddenly made things difficult for the CS.
     
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  8. westiedog1

    westiedog1 Well-Known Member

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    Don't forget Saleh's motto: "All gas no brake..." Not sold on Saleh either, but will give him a mulligan for last season.

    The Quincy penalty was bad granted, however, I was quite impressed by the overall lack of penalties committed by the Jets. They had only 4 which is remarkable for a preseason game. So I'll give the CS credit for that.
     
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  9. LAJet

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    Great point about Zuniga and Smart. Is interesting to see the dilema for us this year, unlike before, we have more talent but is uneven, where we have extra depth in some areas, potentially having to shed players that can actually fill a back up roll or starting well, like TE, RB, Edge, even WR, and areas like DT/LB and OL where we are struggling quite a bit to get a consistent base.
     
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  10. Jojo

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    Clemmons will be a awesome player. The defense looks just as lost and confused as ever. Huge gaps in secondary, I just dont believe in this defense UNTIL it shows otherwise. Especially ULBRICH.
     
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  11. LAJet

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    My two cents. I rewatched every single highlight with Sauce I could find. At least 10 different plays and I was marveled at his coverage skills for a rookie. He seems to be at exactly the right place, right time, anticipating moves through out the play like glue. This kid in my opinion will be beyond special. He is a natural. Now, conversely, the middle of the field looks like no man’s land with nothing by WRs roaming freely as it could possibly be. Not sure if we are trying to keep things beyond basic but more likely we have LBs that are poor as hell in pass coverage, a long time problem with us.
     
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    I couldn't watch the game and when I heard about the injury I did a search on the net, which led me to the swamp, I mean twitter. Eagles fans were claiming they had to sit Hurts because we were cheap shotting bastards and the injury to Zach was our karma. I didn't see the late hit but apparently it made them furious.
     
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  13. ukjetsfan

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    I agree with this 100 per cent. It was incredibly stupid and dangerous to both players. The moron lowered his head for a helmet-to-helmet blow. In the current climate that was just such a ridiculous thing to do. I thought he should have been benched after that play. Has he been fined by the league? I'm sure he will be.
     
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  14. ukjetsfan

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    He looked like glue on some of those plays, but he also looking VERY handsy. Flags will be thrown when passes start coming his way.
     
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  15. westiedog1

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    There was one play in which Hurts threw a pass that seemed to whiz by Sauce's head intended and caught by a receiver further downfield. I was disappointed Sauce didn't make a play on it based on all his hype, but maybe he didn't see it coming or maybe the pass was higher than it looked on TV. It would have been a great play even if he knocked it down. Otherwise, your observations of the rest of the Jets pass defense is spot on.
     
  16. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    I remember that play. The receiver was wide open. Someone had to have blown coverage.
     
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  17. ukjetsfan

    ukjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I could understand them being angry. It was a ludicrous hit and Saleh should have made a statement by benching Williams.
     
  18. ukjetsfan

    ukjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I agree on Sauce, but I also think this epitomises something I've thought for a while. All a great corner can do is turn it into a game of your other 10 players against their other 10 players. If everyone else is mediocre, you still have a mediocre defense. Sauce looked great, yet the Eagles gained chunks of yardage at will by looking elsewhere. A great pass-rusher does more than make it a 10-on-10 game. He blows up the opposing offense. No corner does that. Not even Revis did that at his peak. I'm hoping to love Sauce as a player, but KT at the No.4 spot would have meant no trade up which might have netted us a good back-up right tackle and an extra player too, maybe a linebacker. That would be looking nice right now.
     
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  19. AndyDrums

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    Quote shoulbe "A monkey could run AGAINST our defense". They were pitiful again Friday night, albeit only being PSG 1 for 2 series. I saw the same crap we saw all last season, and I do not expect it to change much unfortunately. Ulbrich is not a good DC and i am really starting to question Saleh the Salesman as a HC.
     
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  20. AndyDrums

    AndyDrums Well-Known Member

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    FCK that, this garbage organization is not worth the price of a new TV :)
     

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