I *still* think the Jets would be better off with *any* starting caliber veteran QB over the guy we have now.
Zach Wilson also sucks. But at least there’s a possibility that he won’t suck since he only sucked in his rookie season. Garoppolo has sucked for his entire career and been lifted by an elite running game, defense and All-Pro’s. His ceiling is defined. Wilson’s is not.
Technology has also changed a lot of this as well as the natural evolution of so-called “night life.” Players no longer need to go clubbing to land what they’re looking for. They can use social media and order room service without ever hitting up a night club especially if that ain’t their thing. Also - most markets that have sports franchises are relatively big enough to have some sort of relevant night life sans Green Bay and Buffalo and even they have some solid scenes even if it’s awful to navigate in December. The draw of being in NYC or near it in the case of Jets/Giants is no longer there. NYC was an awesome draw 30 years ago. Now? It’s just a hassle and not sure how many of you guys have been there recently but it’s an absolute dump.
Meh. I know you like going at me over this. But I’d have confidence that the 49ers results would’ve been similar with Sanchez and Darnold with that team and coaching staff.
YEAH. Loads o people have already given up on 1) Mehki 2) Zach they COULD be right. but then again, the COULD be wrong. All in all we dont pick. Mostly wannabes who play fantasy & think they are smart. Every single year there are loads and loads of guys drafted who fail. They are picked by professionals. I root for Zach now b/c I was looking into alternatives to TL cos I "knew" (had a gut feeling) we wouldnt go 0-16 and we would not have the #1 pick. So I began to look beyond Fields and found Zach and he looked, to me, like he COULD be a good one in the NFL. picks and value of picks all boild down to who tf you select. I preferred Wirfs to Mehki. So far I got that one right. But its only year 3.
The Niners are 7-26 when Garoppolo is hurt and 31-14 when he is the starter. He has a 98.3 rating on the niners with 66 TDs and over 11,000 yards. You can ding him for not staying healthy, or maybe because he isn't a top 5 QB, but Sanchez and Darnold aren't in his league.
The 49ers went all in for a QB last year even with Garoppolo. They believe, and I can't disagree, that he can only take them so far. He can bring stability to a team which is rebuilding but doesn't have a QB. The Jets are trying to develop Zach(and I'm not saying you have to like it). He'd be perfect for the Seahawks if they want to be competitive while searching for their next franchise QB, but would the 49ers trade to a division rival? Doubt it.
Being better than guys that are struggling to find a job in the NFL doesn’t make you good. The Jets were 13-26 with Darnold. They were 0-10 without him in three years.
Your correct, but having a 98.3 career passer rating is good. Sanchez and Darnold are/were the definition of guys struggling to find a job. Both of their starting careers ended with their rookie contracts. Garoppollo is going into year 9 looking to sign his 3rd contract. I'm not sure how you can say Mark or Sam could play as well as Jimmy G?
Well given as how we can’t simulate it with the same circumstances that Garoppolo played under, we don’t have to keep arguing about it. Have you ever watched him play? Consistently? Week to week? It’s unbelievable how much the guy benefitted from the stars around him man. The deliberate effort to hide him in the playoffs is the same thing the Jets did with Sanchez. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GaroJi00/gamelog/post/
Garoppolo would be the best QB the Jets have had in more than a decade. Would he be good enough to win it all? That's like asking if the guy you are hiring to drive your VW Beetle could win the Indy 500.
Of course he's not good enough to win it all. He's been on teams that would have if it weren't for him.
This again doesn’t make him “good,” when he’s going head to head with Josh McCown, Geno and Darnold and friends.
I doubt anyone thinks they are better than JD as a GM, certainly I don't. I believe he has been the best GM we've had in a very long time. But as a long suffering Jets fan for decades, I can have an opinion, which may turn out to be correct, while JD can misjudge something here and there as well. Even in his recent interview JD admitted "As free agency unfolded we saw market going a little crazy at <WR> position". This is as close as you are going to get to him admitting he misread the market initially, and the offer that followed for Hill to me constitutes an adjustment. If you are still not convinced, we will just have to disagree on this one. 5:20
I disagree. I don't think JD misread anything, but even if he did, he wasn't alone. I don't think a single GM in the NFL or anyone else expected the WR market to go as crazy as it did and salaries to be so crazy.
how long does joe douglas have to build a winner? i dont hate what he has done this off season but i didnt hate what he did last off season either and well we all saw how inept the team was. hopefully heading in the right direction and sooner than later.
