Which WR should the Jets get at #10 (Poll)

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If the Jets target WR at #10, who is your preference

  1. Garrett Wilson

    15 vote(s)
    38.5%
  2. Treylon Burks

    15 vote(s)
    38.5%
  3. Drake London

    2 vote(s)
    5.1%
  4. Chris Olave

    2 vote(s)
    5.1%
  5. Jahan Dotson

    1 vote(s)
    2.6%
  6. Jameson Williams

    3 vote(s)
    7.7%
  7. David Bell

    1 vote(s)
    2.6%
  1. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    And now I feel smart too because I just heard Daniel Jeremiah make the same comp today.
     
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  2. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I like them all except Olave and don’t want Jameson Williams off that injury when he should probably be held out for the entire season.

    Bell/London/Dotson might be able to be had in the second. Jahan Dotson feels like the forgotten man in all of this. He’s super quick off the line and in/out of his breaks. He dealt with an injured quarterback throwing to him all year long and the 13th worst rushing offense in NCAAF last year. They were down there with New Mexico State and UConn. Temple, UNLV and Southern Alabama out rushed them.

    They used Dotson in a lot of quick screens at the LOS to manufacture a running game so he didn’t get to showcase a lot of his skills.
     
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    tomdeb Well-Known Member

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    Probably not an original thought,, but I am kinda hoping the jets go OL , LB or edge iwith the 2 picks in n round 1 and then grab WR J. Williams with Carolina's pick in round 2. I know he is probably out for 2022, but could be good value long term. Will Williams last that long in the draft, or are we taking him too early there, up for discussion.
     
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  4. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    If the Jets do take a WR in the first, I think it’s important he doesn’t have the majority of overlapping skills that Moore has. I want diversity. It’s the one thing that really pushed me towards Burks vs Wilson.
     
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    Wilson has the smallest learning curve, but he has a lower ceiling than Burks, and may have already maxed out his potential. He has a small catch radius and that would do Zach no favors to have two of his top WRs with small windows and small catch radiuses. Davis can't be relied upon, and the Jets need a big bodied WR who can win contested catches.
     
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    A player 6'3", 225 lbs. doesn't have to be quick. He is explosive and has great speed. He has some wiggle and elusiveness, and some shiftiness in setting up DBs as he's running down the sidelines. He'll sometimes slow down a little, the DB thinks he has the angle, and then Burks turns on the Jets and leaves the DB flailing at air. Mike Evans is 6'5, 231 lbs., so Burks size is comparable, and I'll bet that Burks is considerably faster, and may be able to leap better than Williams. He's not as polished as Wilson, but imo has a much higher ceiling. Wilson may not hold up to catching a lot of passes over the middle in the NFL. Burks can.
     
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  7. Jonathan_Vilma

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    It will be interesting to see if London heals his ankle in time to run and what his time ends up being. I imagine he’s a second round pick at this point but the guy eats up targets like nobodies business. If you want diversity he probably offers the most.

    Unrelated to the Jets though, he’s the most fascinating player in the draft to me as a draft geek. I could see him going anywhere from top 15 to falling to the end of the second.
     
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    Spot on!
     
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    I believe that Matt Waldman and Ben Solak made the same comparison during their lengthy analysis video of Burks on YouTube. I think he can do everything Samuel can do and more.
     
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    I've read a few times that this class just doesn't have a Ja'mar Chase type talent at WR. Some good ones, but none truly great. If Burks is the best of this class, where would he fall in WR rich drafts like '20 and '21? If he'd be a late 1st in those drafts, do we really want to pony up a top 10 for him? I get we really need a true #1 and we can't control who comes out in any draft but can't help to think DJ should trade down a bit (and pick up a high '23 pick).
     
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    I’ve been all about London and if it seems like he can fall to 2nd. I kind of doubt he will but who knows, Moore did. He’s a great route runner and offers YAC Plus the contested catch traits, I love me some Drake London.
     
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    I think it depends on the role you have imagined for a player, how he fits into your offense. I mean really what’s the difference between pick 10 and 17 if the guy is the best fit for your situation? A few players who may or may not pan out? You have to trust your own evaluation process and trust your conviction if you have it. Do you think the Browns are like “thank god we didn’t draft CeeDee Lamb at pick 10, that would have been bad value since he wasn’t Ja’Marr Chase!”

    Sure Jedrick Wills is a good player too but it doesn’t make Lamb unworthy of a top 10 pick. If you believe a guys is a stud, don’t overthink a few picks. If you’re talking about need exclusively it’s a different story.
     
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    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    The world of NFL fans has become obsessed with this concept of value to the point where it dilutes draft discussions. The NFL might not see another talent like Chase for a decade and it make take another ten years after to see one that affects his new team like Chase did.

    We just so happened to get it in back to back years with Jefferson & Chase but it was previously cemented that Randy Moss had the best rookie year of all time. That’s a 20+ year lag time. It should be noted that Jefferson also played in a ton of shootouts with a veteran gunslinger and a defense that was 29th in scoring so he had plenty of opportunities to put up big numbers.

    The only other player who comes close to the production these three put up as rookies is Anquan Boldin over the past 20-25 years. Maybe OBJ as well.
     
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    Wilson does not have a small catch radius whatsoever. I'd say he easily has the largest catch radius for his height of any receiver in this class, and he's not exactly short either.
     
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    As someone who was super high on Chase last year, I'd put Wilson a notch lower. And while Burks wouldn't be a bad choice, do we absolutely need a big WR? A reliable TE would mitigate the lack of a big WR.
     
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    ACL tear for skill positions could be the new "tommy john" for pitchers. You get a post surgery player with a stronger knee and the rehab makes his supporting muscles stronger. Draft a different guy and its only a matter of time before he tears his anyway. I wouldn't rule out Jameson Williams.
     
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    True but when you're trying to develop a rookie QB it matters a lot if a guy won't be able to play significant reps until a season after you draft him.

    We should be taking measures to assure we can make a call on Wilson after next season and no later.
     
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    That's a plan that'll get GMs & coaches fired. I'm not saying you are crazy, in fact that's probably what they are thinking, but if you want a wide receiver you should go out and get the best one. Not the one that will make Zach Wilson not look so bad in 2022
     
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  19. Borat

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    While I agree this is WR rich draft, and later rounds may yield into good players, I think with two picks in top 10, we need to come away with two blue chip players. Kind of like what we got in AVT last year. Pro Bowl star potential, high ceiling, high floor type of guys at premium positions. Who are these guys in this draft, true blue chip, who would make sense for the Jets? IMO they are: Hutch, Keyvon, Neal, Karlaftis, Linderbaum, Ekwonu, Cross, Burks, Hamilton. Some could argue Karlaftis, Cross, Hamilton, Burks are not blue chip, some others are, and we will know more as time passes. At the end of the day I think there will be 7-9 of consensus blue chip guys on the board, including 1 WR.

    I think with QBs probably sliding in, and maybe a guy like Stingley, with two top 10 picks, we need to come out with 2 blue chip players from these two picks. Maybe trade back a bit if the boards falls where more QBs slide in, or injury prone guys like Stingley are taken early, but we cannot trade back too much, as these blue chip guys will be gone. Depending on how free agency works out, it is very possible WR1 will still be a need, and it is a HUGE need right now, as evidenced by Wilson throwing to guys like Motgomery and Black. While we can get a WR in later rounds, you are not getting a blue chip player there. Maybe a Mims replacement for depth? That's why when #10 is up (or if we trade out a bit) we need to take a hard look at a real blue chip WR talent that's out there.
     
  20. Jonathan_Vilma

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    I’m not scared off of the player because of the injury. I’m scared off of the player because of the injury trying to be developed by the Jets after missing what will likely be nearly an entire year.

    Aside from developing Wilson, the Jets can’t openly afford to get zero production until December from their top ten pick.
     
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