The DL is the only unit where everyone can do the job. Doesn't mean they will. Well, WR's could if Davis didn't have unreliable hands.
It’ll be funny if the Seahawks’ pick turns into Kyle Hamilton, who is actually a better prospect than Jamal Adams lol
I don't think everybody can do their job at this point. None of the front 4 have the speed to play on the right side of the defense. That lack of a coherent weakside rush threat has made it easier to shut down the interior rushers who should be pushing the pocket.
You're probably right, I was being generous. It's basically a guarantee that one 1st rounder will be used on an edge rusher that's been missing since Abraham. I mean someone who opposing OC's have to gameplan for, not just any edge.
The loss of Lawson was devastating for the defense. I don’t believe they would have been “good” per se because they do need more talent elsewhere but I don’t think these blowouts would have happened one after the other. Edge rusher has to be the priority because even if Lawson comes back well in 2022, you can’t lack that part of the unit if he misses a week or two at times.
I can’t say it will or won’t happen this off-season, but I know it can happen. Optimistically the Jets have around 2/3rds of the players required to have a complete team under contract for 2022. Between the draft picks, some re-signings, getting healthy, and a few selective free agents, they should be able to complete the team and also have the depth required. I know they won’t be SB bound but if they aren’t legitimately contending for the playoffs next year, I will be far more critical. I think they have: 1/1 QB 2/2 RB 0/2 TE 2/4 WR 4/6 OL 3/4 IDL 3/4 Edge 1/3 LB 4/5 CB 1/3 S So basically 21/34 spots filled for a legit roster not including Special Teams. Bring back Crowder, Fatukasi you have 11 spots left, you can probably fill around 6 in the draft. Fill the final 5 in FA and maybe a surprise young guy/UDFA and you’ve got a real team. Like I said, too young to win a SB but should be in or very near playoffs.
yeah it's really helping us out for sure. we expected a pick in the mid 20s and at this point may get a top 10 pick out of it. makes JD looks really good
JD gets a lot of shit, a lot of it deserved, but the Adams and Darnold trades were absolute fleecings.
I think you're a bit too generous with your assessments of the Jets talent levels. I think they're: 0/1 QB 2/3 RB - but no main back yet. They have a good 3rd down back and a good complementary back. 0/2 TE 2/4 WR 2/6 OL - This assuming that Becton gets back and is good to go. Fant and McGovern are headed straight into the murk at this point. Odds are Fant is not playing as effectively in 2022 and McGovern in 2023. They're both iffy this year because the OL is not coherent and that effect is going to get worse with age not better. 3/4 IDL - Don't really know how to gauge this unit at this point. Q is very good but held back by lesser players around him. Fatukasi should be fine on the nose but the Jets are getting stampeded all around him. JFM? Just don't know about him at all. If he can play DE on the left and set the edge with some pressure, kind of a Shaun Ellis, then he is worth something. If he's just a rotational guy for Q and F then we spent a lot of money for that effect. 0/4 Edge 1/3 LB - Mosley will be 30 too. 2/5 CB - Maybe. 0/3 S There's a reason the OL is getting pushed around every week and it's not just GVR although he is the worst of them. There's a reason this defense is getting destroyed every week. There are more holes than players out there on every down. I think the Jets might have a half dozen people on the roster who would start on the *average* NFL roster. They have maybe 3 who would get a lot of playing time on a playoff bound team. We're like 3 years out from being competitive and that's assuming the Jets stick to a rigorous draft protocol and stop signing mid-career free agents who are going to be dropping out in 2 or 3 years. None of this is rocket science. Lots of teams put together coherent plans to raise and train their player base. The Jets just don't have a clue.
IDK where he should get shit TBH. yeah he's had a few misses but he's had a lot of wins. all his trades have been very 1 sided for us. the 2021 draft class looks amazing so far. the 2020 one not so much but becton and hall are great. give it some time
The Darnold, Adams, and Herndon trades are all big time wins of varying degrees. Picking up Franklin-Myers and Berrios off waivers were also really nice moves. Huff and Guidry as UDFA’s look like good adds too, despite Guidry getting beaten up by Stefon Diggs this past week. To me he has made it more than clear he is generally has plus skills working trades and the UDFA pool. There is still a fair amount of time to make final judgements on both the draft and Free Agency. There have been apparent hits and misses in both realms but I’m letting it play out before I call it.
It's looking like the CS and GM were in sync for this year's draft which is why there are more contributors than there were at this point last year for the 2020 class.
JD is still in the process of building the "core" in just 2 offseasons this is who he has added so far (and mind you on the cheap mostly due to our piss poor cap as in we are still paying for bell, tru, and enunwa thanks to mac) mcgovern (top 10 C in the NFL) AVT (rookie looks legit already) becton (franchise LT) wilson (2nd overall QB TBD) carter II (great Nickel back for a late pick) Carter (best RB the jets have had in a while) hall (legit CB1 as a late rounder) guidry (solid NI/Dime back as an UDFA) echols (legit CB2 as a late round pick) JFM (waiver and extended good all around DE) berrios (waiver and extended. good back-up WR/special teamer) shaq lawson (traded a late pick, has been a solid DE for us) carl lawson (legit edge rusher but injury before season) corey davis (legit WR1) elijah moore (rookie but looks like a legit WR1 already) rankins (solid rusher as a DT for cheap) mike white (solid backup QB at worst) george fant (midlevel FA LT who's outplayed the contract we gave him) morgan moses (cheap free agent RT who's playing well) keenan cole (good WR3 who's playing as WR4 for us) bryce huff (flashed as a rusher before injury as an UDFA) kroft (decent TE for cheap. better then what we had) about 15 of our 22 starters were all brought in by douglas in only 2 offseasons and most are young draft picks. It's gonna take some time but the potential is there. Yes we have some big holes at safety and LBer on defense and RG and TE on offense but he's also got us 2 1sts (both looking top 10 as well), 2 2nds, a 3rd, 2 4ths, and 2 5ths coming up. as well as a good amount of money for a couple of FAs. we have 4 picks in the top 51. should net us at least 3 starters there.
The list I put together isn’t necessarily long term players, it’s guys than can manage to be a full team enough for 2022. There is nothing Lenny of upgrading that can happen. I think you’re too down on the roster personally, but that’s just my opinion
les snead took over the rams in 2012. his 1st 5 seasons combined he won 30% of his games and finished 3rd or 4th in the division every year. then his next 5 he's won 67.5% and finished 1st or 2nd every year except 1. had the rams fired snead after his 1st 2 seasons they wouldn't be where they are right now
like when the 2016 rams won only 4 games after winning 7 the year before (les sneads 5th year) they could have fired him but they didn't they drafted goff and fired the coach and hired mcvay and have made the playoffs 3 out of the next 4 years (and likely this year too) and never had a losing record. The impatience and turnover is why we are always a bad team. We never give potential good coaches and GMs a real chance to build a team. Also regression at this point is impossible. we already matched our win total. but more important we have a young core and tons of picks/money to improve in the offseason. where before JD we were a team of overpaid free agents and no young core outside of Q and adams. Now we have wilson, moore, Q, AVT, becton, Huff, Hall, carter, carter II, echols, and JFM. i'd say thats a big improvement. we also had 2 years of gase saleh won't possibly be worse then gase
