Sounds good. There are a lot of studs that pop up in the middle rounds, such as our top 2 WRs Coles (3rd) and Cotchery (4th).
You can't say he's over the hill when he's 29 and played on one of the worst offenses in NFL history this year.
A mid-round draft pick over a receiver with top 5 in NFL status until he went to a horrible offense. Sounds awesome.
i'd be pissed if i had brooks, walters, tuuusssipooo throwing at me. if i was moss. they worked well at marshall. he was a 1st round stud as well as penny. why not?
Randy Moss hasn't taken a few plays off. Randy Moss has taken entire games off. Three in succession at the end of this most recent season. You may feel the media has been overselling Moss's bad reputation, but lately folks around here have been underselling the magnitude of his self-inflicted failure in the NFL. Randy Moss destroyed Randy Moss. I don't know a single Jet on this squad who has taken a play off. Randy Moss doesn't deserve to be on the field with these men.
As I recall, T.O. put in a MVP performance in the Super Bowl. Losing wasn't his fault. Besides, I'll see your Terrell Owens and raise you a Jerry Rice.
I hear what your saying Mezz, I like most jets fans are a little apprehensive about Moss who has really made himself look an ass at times but I have to say his friendship with Penny is an intriguing factor. I think Moss is still a big play game breaker, you have to imagine he would love to play alongside CP again and might see a move to the Jets as a real chance to showcase his skill again- whether Mangini could see him on the team is another matter but if his agent comes snooping around and he asks Chad for his thoughts you would have to think he would endorse his old Marshall buddy.
Most of us agree that Mangini gets the most out of players, be it rookies or vets. So why would he not be able to do the same for Moss? People are so afraid of this guy bringing a "poor" locker room mentality. What people fail to realize is that football players are adults that make there own decisions. Young guys are impressionable, but we have a enough good influences to keep them in check. Boom or bust, at the right price he's worth a shot. He instantly makes our offense better, and makes it a nightmare to gameplan against. If he and Penny regain some of that chemestry from years ago then this offense could be lights out. And to the guy who said "why invest in a guy who touches the ball 10 times out of 60 offensive plays?"...you've gotta be kidding right? If Moss could get 10 touches a game here then he'd be the best investment we've made since the Martin deal.
Why don't you look into it a little further? A receiver who held top 5 status but has steadily declined. A receiver who has a reputation for giving up on numerous plays and failing to go across the middle making the big catch when it counts- afraid of contact. A receiver who is known in the league as a malcontent and has caused strife between himself, teamates and team officials. A receiver who I do not want. Vs. Some guy with alot of potential, possibly raw to some degree, who can contribute with qualities including size, speed and aggressiveness. Someone who can fit into the mold of the team Mangini is striving to create. Hasn't the Marques Coltson example shown you anything? You don't need to reach for the #1 guy overall to have a guy who can carrry the team. If we didn't have Coles, I'd consider buying your argument. Since we do, keep Moss outside the gates of Hofstra- "we doh need noh steenkeeng Moss."
No he isn't... the problem is when he busts he takes the whole team down with him... No way Tangini even considers this
WTF... i swear why do people talk about what they dont know about. for years every single teamate moss has had says he is a great guy even when they go to diffrent teams ala nate burleson. u blame moss fo the downfall in minnesota did u know the reason randy moss was traded was because he spoke out against the owner for no spending money to make the defense better or on better facilitites. you cnt blame him for the raiders downfall cause that wa alreay going on efore he go there.. there is a reason sean payton turned dwn he job and no other coach wanted the job outside of art shell. everything moss complains about comes down to do with winning.. and this guy is worse than TO who has single handley killed a year in and year out playoff team in philly and is on the verge of killing the cowboys next. you got vikings fans on there message board dying to have moss back in the fold.. the went from a top 5 offense wth him to one of the worse in the league without him.
he failed what is it u want him t do.. throw the ball to himself ? maybe run the ball himself, maybe be play LTand block for the qb? the whole damn raider team had quit by mid season.. some even before the season started . all moss said was if know one else cared about winning why should he. footall is a team sport 1 player dont win games not matter how good he is. and just because you a make a few commen dot make u a damn TO.. if so coles and chad johnson are just as much TO's as moss is.. coles has made a few dumb comments this year.
you got to be kidding me..Colston situation happens rarely its not a every draft thing.a very few wrs are able to have success in year 1.you think teams are gonna pass on calvin johnson and dewayne jarrett if they need a wr and those guys are available.. for some john doe in the 7th rd. because of how colstons situaton played out?
My point is that there is certainly value in the mid to later rounds. Previous drafts have shown that. What part is kidding? Granted, the Coltson argument is nearly once in a lifetime for a receiver, but you are certainly going to find a great player at the end of the first day. I certainly don't see teams passing on competent receivers just to take a crapshoot in the 7th, the point of my argument was really that you can find quality in the middle of the draft and that there is ZERO reason to take a shot on someone like Moss....
I think another receiver is the last thing we need anyway... I'd rather get a corner in FA and a RB in the draft
Does Moss really have a whole helluva lot of talent left? He's been around for nearly a decade now and he certainly isn't the same WR we saw early in his carrer or at Marshall. Penny and Moss would be an interesting reunioun but I'd stay clear of this guy.
