Is Robert Saleh the right person for the job?

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  1. nyjetsgreen

    nyjetsgreen Active Member

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    After him crying about New England running up the score I say no. He said some alarming things in the spring like they weren't looking at winning games but progress like herm said you play to win the game not get moral victories
     
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  2. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    So, Bick, how do you feel about Saleh being the right guy for the job?
     
  3. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    I can categorically tell you that shouting in my face would not motivate me in the slightest tbh
     
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  4. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    the thing is that Saleh looked firey and energetic on the sideline in San Fran.

    Where did that guy go???
     
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  5. Cman68

    Cman68 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    But being threatened specifically with losing your job just might...
     
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  6. Cman68

    Cman68 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    The Jets only played half a game against the Titans and damn near lost that one if it wasn't for a missed gimme FG attempt.
     
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  7. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    Me yes, sportsmen not so much, always another team willing to take you on.

    Soccer = transfer fee so no player gets fired lol well one with a value :)
     
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  8. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    Too early to tell. I need to see at least a full season.
     
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  9. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't call a 49 yard field goal attempt a gimme :D
     
  10. REVISion

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    I think he has overly course-corrected. He probably thought the fiery routine was a bit too much as a HC but has gone too far in the wet blanket direction now.
     
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  11. SOJAZ

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    I do not like to kick someone when they are on their way down but come on, the guy is an NFL lifer, knew what he was getting into and is failing as a HC: NYPOST:

    The Jets don’t have a plan, or an identity, on either side of the ball. On defense, Saleh’s specialty, they are among six teams that surrender more than 400 yards per game, and among four teams that surrender more than 29 points per game. They are also the league’s only team yet to record a single interception.

    On offense, the Jets are the league’s only team yet to score a single point in the first quarter — they’ve scored just 20 in 180 first-half minutes. They are averaging a league-worst 13.3 points per game, or 20 fewer than the top-scoring teams.


    Bingo, we have a winner. Also, what is far more telling is a comparisons between AG and RS 1-6 games and you guessed it, they both had 5 L and 1 W. AG 61pts for to 134against, RS 53 -151... seems our new shinny HC is worse then his predecessor. at least at this pint in time. That is why I am off the RS band wagon.
     
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  12. rickjet

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    My concern is:
    Will Saleh tell his best friend's brother (our OC) that he is doing a terrible job? All those assistant offensive
    coaches & quality assistants, why doesn't someone tell LeFleur that running twice into the center of the line
    to start games isn't working!!!
     
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  13. Cman68

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    These days? Not as rare as they used to be.:p
     
  14. PJ4Ever

    PJ4Ever Well-Known Member

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    Impatience is hardly the right answer. Hiring the right coaches/GMs is
     
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  15. NCJetsfan

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    I think it's a matter of semantics. IMO there is middle ground and a time when either can be correct.

    Yes, patience is needed in some cases. If both Saleh and LaFleur realize the mistakes they've been making and start taking steps to correct those flaws, then they deserve patience and time from JD, the Johnsons, the media, and the fanbase. We didn't get in this mess overnight, and we've had a perfect storm of bad luck with Knapp dying, all the injuries, solid plans to develop a long-term backup QB failing, as well as some draft picks not developing (as happens with all draft picks), so we're not getting out of it overnight. Thus it's going to require a lot of patience from the fanbase.

    OTOH, coaches have to be honest with themselves and realize when they're not doing what they said they would do, their approach isn't working, when they're doing an awful job, and the team isn't even competitive. If they are stubborn or in denial, then one cannot afford to be patient for long like we were with Rex, Bowles and Mac. Then one must realize that a mistake was made, and move quickly to cut one's losses. Saleh promised to take a deep look at things during the bye, and he came up with nothing? Just minor tweaking? That doesn't even sound smart, much less realistic, or any sense of urgency or pride. Of course, he may just be saying that to the media to save face and cover for his friend LaFleur. Hopefully, behind the scenes, he is taking steps to make major changes with the offense, with their game plans, with preparing the team to play, and with instilling discipline in the players. I certainly hope that JD and Saleh are talking and JD is helping Saleh realize where the problems lie and that Saleh is listening and cooperating. If so, he should be given a chance to make the needed changes and hire an experienced OC for next year. If not, he insists that his approach was fine and that LaFleur was doing a good job, then he's not the right man for the job and should not be back next year, because without admission of his flaws and mistakes, there's no way that he or the team will improve.

    We have talent, and I'm certain that JD will add even more talent with all our draft capital and cap space. This team, with proper coaching, should be able to challenge at least for a wild card spot next season. If we aren't, then we have the wrong HC and CS.

    We have the right GM.
     
  16. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Have you ever had to tackle extremely large fast human beings for a living while being scared for serious injury to the head or neck injury if you don't?

    There are different ways to make people accountable. It doesn't have to be screaming and yelling. But it feels like this staff and organization is fine with losing. Saleh should be fucking pissed about losing, even if it doesn't come out as screaming and I don't get that feeling from him.
     
  17. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    That is all fine but the post I replied to specifically said yelling.
     
  18. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    There's screaming and yelling and passion in football. It's just how it is.
     
  19. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    Again fine, I was just telling you that yelling and screaming at me wouldn't motivate me lol
     
  20. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    But again, you'd be a different breed of person if you were playing a violent sport. I'm sure of it. Because you wouldn't have made it that far if yelling and screaming was that much of an issue for you.
     

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