The NFL scouting community is like a cheating girlfriend fans continue to go back to. No matter how many times they do fans wrong, they are always able to regain fans’ trust.
I feel like his name should be the name that will remain left unspoken. What an awful HC, hire, and scheme. Fuck that guy. lol
I am a little surprised he moved Lance ahead of Zach. But, say he is right, he still said you can't go wrong with Zach Wilson. He may have rated him lower than other former QBs/Coaches who watched the film, but still concluded we can't go wrong. And that's the pattern: I see Zach mostly rated second among reputable fols, some rate him first and even if someone rates lower, they still say he will do well, can't go wrong, etc... I think we will be OK.
On the Old NY Times Jets Forum, we never mentioned Kotite's name. We always said "K_____" or "he whose name shall not be spoken" when referencing him. In a crazy way, however, Gase may be why the org chart was changed and JD was given the power to make the decision on hiring the new HC. He may also be part of why we got JD as GM, so we may actually owe him a lot!
So far JD hasn't done too much wrong. Simms has been spot on. Jenkins has good reputation. Kurt Warner does as well. And also, given the odds of this pick, this type of consensus is quite rare.
He wasn't that bright, but he also didn't care. I have seen reports that he'd leave practice early to beat traffic, and that they'd be very nonchalant in practices, not working hard. You would think he would have been grateful to old man Hess for giving him a ton of money and a job after Philly had fired him, but it was almost like he was trying to screw old man Hess.
wow I had never heard that, NC. I had always thought he was just an incompetent boob. I never heard that he was lazy and didn't really give a shit. Interesting.
If this works out, I think the one who deserves credit is Chris Johnson. Firing Mac, hiring JD and Saleh, keeping Gase until season end once it was obvious Jets are not going anywhere, which helped earn #2 pick and then get Saleh, changing org structure, could change this franchise to finally become relevant. And he was only temporarily there for 4 years. Keeping fingers crossed...
Not sure about scouts, but there are too many reputable NFL folks who agree on this pick. It helps that they agree with me , but still, a lot of very reputable people, NFL QBs, coaches, etc, will be completely wrong if Zach fails. There seems to be a true consensus among knowledgeable folks that he will be a good QB.
Some gentle musings on late night TGG. This weekend we collect picks 23 and 87 for not picking Patrick Mahomes. Yes, the pick that is so frequently lamented in these parts still has a long ways to go before we can even determine if it was that bad. Next year we will collect even more booty for not picking Patrick Mahomes. Thanks Mac, you misunderstood genius.
https://www.pff.com/news/draft-byu-qb-zach-wilson-mistake-new-york-jets-no-2-overall Anyone with a PFF subscription tell me If this article Is worth reading..? Fucking, PFF. Sigh. EDIT: I posted It In the Draft forum for anyone that wants to read It.
Not worth paying subscription just for this article... Nothing really new to be honest. Basically his case is the same we have been talking ad nauseum on this board. That Zach Wilson is very effective with a clean pocket but his accuracy become spotty without a clean pocket. Also mention his struggle in 2019 vs 2020 when his protection and level of competition made it easy on him. The most intriguing part of this article is that Zach Wilson really avoided to throw in the midfield in 2020. Which explained his low level of interception. Finally they said that the same observation were made last year for Herbert (struggling outside the pocket) with innacurate throws and avoiding midfield but they said that unlike Zach, Herbert has A+ arm strength while he graded Zach arm strength at B+ at best. Very subjective on the last part no stats to back it up. They said that basically the Jets are banking on Zach Wilson improving from his struggles when pressured and that it might not be a gamble worth to do with a 2nd overall pick. The same guy that wrote that article was also very bullish regarding Herbert and called it a wasted pick by thr Chargers. His exact quote: "I don't think Justin Herbert is some uniquely flawed quarterback but he's too similar to a lot of guys you can get in the later rounds. Accuracy and timing issues litter his tape. Hard to believe a team watched it and decided he was worth the 6th pick." https://t.co/dlnbzBnWTP
PFF are also terrible, these clowns also got fooled by a terrible graphic yesterday on Twitter https://brobible.com/sports/article/nfl-fake-chargers-giants-trade-tweet/
I've always held PFF's stats and results with a grain of salt. It was just some different points that were being made that I felt was worth discussing. Zach Wilson didn't throw In the middle of the field. Which could explain a lower INT ratio. They also talked about BYU's scheme. Just how dominate the BYU offensive line was. "But the reason for Wilson's meteoric rise up draft boards has more to do with the offensive environment around him than it has to do with his development as a quarterback." They also highlighted a lot of the pockets Zach Wilson was working under and just how dominate the OL was. They dominated so hard, there wasn't even a typical "U" shaped pocket for the majority of Zach Wilson's snaps. Instead of your typical "U" shaped pockets, he was working behind flat pockets. "Wilson was seemingly playing behind the Great Wall of China." They are also suggesting that not only was BYU's OL really good, the competition and defensive alignments from G5 schools differ from P5 schools (obviously). G5 defenses run a lot of cover 6, which means that they only have one edge lined up, which makes life easier for OL as good as BYU's was. No rushers, no collapse. Essentially, not much pressure. They were exposed to a lot of 3 man rushes. Obviously, that's a good thing against an OL like BYU's. "Further cushioning Wilson's environment, the Cougars offensive linemen were only beaten in one-versus-one situations 10% of the time, good enough for the 19th-best mark in the country. In addition, the offense as a whole faced quarters coverage at the 20th-highest rate in 2020 (again, this excludes the triple-option teams) while ranking 111th in Cover 1 man-to-man snaps faced. The receivers then did their bit by catching 49.3% of their contested catches, which ranked 21st in college football. Their cumulative receiving grade was 91.8, second. A great offensive line and great receivers against predictable defenses is a winning combination." They also mostly ran double and mesh concepts on offense. Which are designs for inferior defensive concepts. It's a web of shit honestly. "The stats and production might look good on paper, but when we dig into the level of competition and how these lower-level teams on the BYU schedule played defense against them, the results are more concerning." Things to think about I think. It doesn't make me feel any better. All I got.
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