Robert Saleh’s Staff Taking Shape

NYJetsO12 · Jan 22, 2021

Losmeister said: ↑

how is Jax not a worse dumpster fire. stop being such a wuss, ffs. we're not special. lots shit to go around. cleve, detroit, et cet....
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Who's being a wuss? Just stating a fact that the present Jets Roster, like Detroit and Jax will NOT draw the attention of the best Coaches to NY and HC Saleh , JD will need to pull off a great sales pitch .for talent to come here.
Unless you truly believe that a Team finishing dead last has players that are not bottom of the barrel lol

BroadwayAaron · Jan 23, 2021

Pretty cool insight:

LAJet · Jan 23, 2021

BroadwaySam said: ↑

Pretty cool insight:

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That is awesome. Love what I see and hear so far.

Losmeister · Jan 23, 2021

NYJetsO12 said: ↑

Who's being a wuss? Just stating a fact that the present Jets Roster, like Detroit and Jax will NOT draw the attention of the best Coaches to NY and HC Saleh , JD will need to pull off a great sales pitch .for talent to come here.
Unless you truly believe that a Team finishing dead last has players that are not bottom of the barrel lol
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Deshaun Watson disagrees with you too.

Losmeister · Jan 23, 2021

GreenFan15J · Jan 23, 2021

Brook! said: ↑

Can't wait for the first tailgate of the new season my friend.
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Me too buddy.

If our FA and draft goes well I’ll be there for sure.

If not I plan to be 100 miles offshore hunting an Alison...

abyzmul · Jan 23, 2021

Trying not to get too worked up here but the shape of Robert Saleh's staff seems to be gaining popularity around the league.

NYJetsO12 · Jan 23, 2021

Losmeister said: ↑

Deshaun Watson disagrees with you too.
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Hes a NFL player not Coach. But yes I am glad!!

IMO this is all about the GM building around him.. I mean Mims Crowder and Perriman cant be getting Watson too excited

Plus he is banking on JD to get him star receivers and getting coached up by Saleh and our new OC

Will our OL protect him? What do you think

HomeoftheJets · Jan 23, 2021

abyzmul said: ↑

Trying not to get too worked up here but the shape of Robert Saleh's staff seems to be gaining popularity around the league.
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Must. Remain. Cynical.

BroadwayAaron · Jan 25, 2021

Noam · Jan 25, 2021

Hoping JD will work with Boyer this year and not cut his best players. The coverage suffered as a result. For example last Summer Boyer in an interview called Cannon one of his best player and one of the best 5 gunners in the league. The next day Cannon gets cut from the 90 man roster. This had Gase power play written all over it. Good to see Boyer outlasted Gase.

K'OB · Jan 25, 2021

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The Jets liked Robert Saleh. A lot. They believed he was the perfect coach at the perfect time. Spirits tend to drop when you haven’t made the playoffs in a decade. Saleh’s starry vehemence, which radiated through in his first Zoom interview, seemed to be the jolt this team so desperately desired.

But the Jets weren’t ready to commit yet. It takes more than passion and intensity to win games. They wanted a little more conviction. They couldn’t afford to get this hire wrong. They had to know this was right.

So Saleh told them who he planned to have on his coaching staff, specifically offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur.

The Jets didn’t need much more convincing after that.

At 34, many consider LaFleur among the league’s up-and-coming offensive minds and the latest branch off the Kyle Shanahan coaching tree. The younger brother of Matt, whose Green Bay Packers play the Bucs in the NFC Championship on Sunday, has worked with Shanahan the last seven years. He first joined him as an assistant with the Browns (2014), then Falcons (2015-2016), before following him to San Francisco as a passing game coordinator (2017-2018).

By hiring LaFleur as his offensive coordinator, Saleh brings Shanahan’s scheme to the East Coast.

Here’s what that means:

The primary description given to Shanahan’s system is run first — like an old-school, Alex Gibbs, wide-zone scheme. It’s not that simple, though. It is run first, yes. But it is so, so much more intricate in that he uses an abundance of diverse 21 (two running backs and one tight end) personnel to press the defense.

In its most vanilla execution, the run game is a zone, but Shanahan makes the opposition’s life miserable by working in an absurd amount of pre-snap motion and misdirection. When you combine that with what he does formationally, Shanahan can position the defense just the way he wants, so he has the angle, alignment, and assignment advantage. This results in his offenses consistently outflanking the defense. Those angles at the point of attack put continual stress on the defense’s run fits.

Shanahan will hit you with wide zones, crack tosses and lead tosses against defenses.

Then he plays off it with gap runs and whams.

Among the most significant benefits of this rushing attack is that it doesn’t require an elite-level line to function. You don’t need to create movement. Instead, you need to reach, scoop, get in position, seal and get to the second level to cut off the back side. This makes average linemen look good, and good linemen look great.

When the Jets hired Adam Gase, GM Mike Maccagnan signed Le’Veon Bell in what seemed a questionable marriage. Gase made it clear he wanted a running back by committee, not one lead back. Shanahan is a bit of a mix between the two. His scheme doesn’t require either, but instead a skill set. If one guy has it: Great. If multiple: Also great.

The primary trait the offense requires from its running backs is speed. Shanahan needs guys who can get to the perimeter before the defense. In Atlanta, that was Tevin Coleman and Devonta Freeman. In San Francisco, Shanahan hoped that would be Jerrick McKinnon, but he suffered back to back season-ending injuries. Journeyman Raheem Mostert stepped up and became the perfect example of a scheme-fit player.

From 2015 through 2018, Mostert played for five teams. He rushed 42 times for 594 yards and one touchdown. In 2019, he rushed for 772 yards (5.6 yards per carry) and eight touchdowns, along with another 336 yards and five scores in San Francisco’s three playoff games. Mostert is not an elite-level back in that he lacks nifty feet and great vision. But he’s fast and knows where he must be on each running play.

Once Shanahan can establish the run, he begins to attack through the air. What makes this scheme so quarterback-friendly is the marriage of the run to the play-action to keep the quarterback out of drop-back situations. Shanahan will scheme receivers open, which has the quarterback throwing to windows, not players. This makes the read progressions much simpler.

LaFleur will run Shanahan’s offense with the Jets. But if he wants to run it successfully, he’ll need a quarterback with enough athleticism to operate outside the pocket and throw accurately on the move. If LaFleur wants to take Shanahan’s scheme to the next level, he needs a quarterback who is just as effective in drop-back situations and can stand in against pressure, deliver the ball on time, and push the ball down the field while avoiding turnovers. This is where defenses have had success against Shanahan in recent years.

Statistically, Jimmy Garoppolo excelled in 2019. The 49ers went 13-3 while he completed 69.1 percent of his passes for 3,978 yards with 27 touchdowns and 13 interceptions. Garoppolo’s impressive numbers were more a result of Shanahan than his success, though. Defenses figured they must contain the run, and force Garoppolo to stretch the field, to win. In an injury-shortened 2020, Garoppolo went 3-3 as a starter completing 67.1 percent of his passes for 1,096 yards with seven touchdowns and five interceptions.

But if the run gets going?

If the play-action opens up?

If the quarterback hits his mark and avoids turnovers?

Good luck.

The Jets offense has been dismal for the better part of forever, absent a random outburst from Ryan Fitzpatrick in 2015. It’s understandable why Joe Douglas and Co. were elated at the Saleh-LaFleur package deal. While he is not Shanahan, LaFleur will run his offense. That alone should provide a jolt to the previously stagnant unit. And while this Jets roster undeniably needs work, they do have some players who can benefit from its implementation.

Quarterback Sam Darnold is the first, assuming the Jets don’t trade for Deshaun Watson or draft Zach Wilson or Justin Fields. He’s athletic and best when on the move. Surprisingly, he seems more accurate in that situation than when he’s sitting in a clean pocket. It’s unclear if he can consistently stretch the field, but at a minimum, he should give the Jets what the 49ers had in Garoppolo.

Running back Ty Johnson impressed in limited play time last year, specifically with his speed. Like Mostert, he’s not the most elusive, but when he sees a hole, he gets through. Left tackle Mekhi Becton, center Connor McGovern and right tackle George Fant should all benefit from the zone blocking scheme. Even guard Greg Van Roten, who struggled mightily in 2020, should be able to, at a minimum, function.

That’s a good start.

The Jets must now spend this offseason acquiring what they don’t have.

Fullback Kyle Juszczyk is a major contributor to the 49ers — an oddity in 2020. He gives San Francisco so much versatility in that he forces the defense to stay in their base personnel, but he himself can leak out of the backfield and create mismatches normal fullbacks cannot. The Jets hoped Trevon Wesco, a fourth-round pick in 2019, could do this for them. He hasn’t developed.

The Jets also need receivers who thrive after the catch. They have that a little of that in slot Jamison Crowder, but wideout Denzel Mims is more of a linear route player. When the 49ers offense was at its best in 2019, Garoppolo got the ball to his playmakers and let them create. Guys like Deebo Samuel and Brandon Ayiuk could also play directly off Juszczyk in the backfield. It added another layer for defenses to defend in that San Francisco could hand the ball off to either on jet sweeps, then watch as they rushed around the corner like running backs.

The Jets don’t have anyone like that under contract for 2020. And while this scheme is easy for an offensive lineman, the Jets still need to address the guard position with one, maybe two new starters.

Lucky for Douglas, he has the means to bolster the roster. The Jets should begin free agency with near $90 million in cap space — most in the NFL — and have seven picks within the first four rounds, including No. 2 and 23.

Panthers receiver Curtis Samuel and Titans tight end Jonnu Smith fit as yards-after-catch weapons. The Patriots aren’t expected to re-sign guard Joe Thuney, whom Douglas coveted last year. If the Jets don’t select a quarterback second, they can trade back to accumulate even more capital, targeting players like Ohio State guard Wyatt Davis, LSU receiver Ja’Marr Chase or Northwestern guard Rashawn Slater. The possibilities seem limitless.

It will take some work, but that offense might not actually look so bad next year.

Especially with LaFleur calling the shots.

No wonder that’s all the convincing the Jets needed.
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A good read that, cheers.

K'OB · Jan 25, 2021

NYJetsO12 said: ↑

Who's being a wuss? Just stating a fact that the present Jets Roster, like Detroit and Jax will NOT draw the attention of the best Coaches to NY and HC Saleh , JD will need to pull off a great sales pitch .for talent to come here.
Unless you truly believe that a Team finishing dead last has players that are not bottom of the barrel lol
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We didn't finish dead last though, did we?

Let us all rejoice at TL and the #1 pick

Oh fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!

K'OB · Jan 25, 2021

Noam said: ↑

Hoping JD will work with Boyer this year and not cut his best players. The coverage suffered as a result. For example last Summer Boyer in an interview called Cannon one of his best player and one of the best 5 gunners in the league. The next day Cannon gets cut from the 90 man roster. This had Gase power play written all over it. Good to see Boyer outlasted Gase.
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This had Gase being an absolute arse, written all over it.

Has there ever been a bigger waste of time at HC than this clown?

Jonathan_Vilma · Jan 25, 2021

K'OB said: ↑

This had Gase being an absolute arse, written all over it.

Has there ever been a bigger waste of time at HC than this clown?
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The Cannon cut never made any sense. If it was a Gase call shame on JD for allowing that to happen.

K'OB · Jan 25, 2021

Jonathan_Vilma said: ↑

The Cannon cut never made any sense. If it was a Gase call shame on JD for allowing that to happen.
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Special teams took a huge hit, do you think he was scared we would appoint Boyer has the next HC if his special teams performed well again?

It wouldn't be a surprise from the narcissistic twat.

boozer32 · Jan 25, 2021

Falco21 said: ↑

Obviously there is a lot still left to do and time will tell, but are people still doubting Joe Douglas?

Talk about a MASSIVE overhaul of this franchise. It is truly mind blowing looking at our coaching staff just a month ago compared to now.

I also hate to do it and it took too long to realize it, but give credit where credit is due. Ownership finally did something right in hiring Douglas and stepping back while he assembled his staff. Kudos for that
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Just hope same said ownership don't try and jump in and ruin it.

boozer32 · Jan 25, 2021

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Three offensive assistants?

boozer32 · Jan 25, 2021

NCJetsfan said: ↑

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Middleton_(American_football) - Middleton played in the NFL and has a good bit of experience both as a TE Coach and Asst. STs Coach. He looks like a good hire.

https://www.newyorkjets.com/team/coaches-roster/mack-brown

Billy Vandemerkt - was a small college QB, has coached RBs, WRs, LBs and QBs in small colleges

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Washington

The staff could be a good one, but initially at least, I'm disappointed. I thought that he would have been able to put together a better staff with more experienced coaches and at least a few with names we know.
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I agree it does look kinda weak.

boozer32 · Jan 25, 2021

LAJet said: ↑

Wonder what the coaching plan is for special teams? Boyer remains?
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Boyer stays.

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