I mean, Saleh has only been the mastermind behind one of the best defenses in the league. Extremely talent yes, but that defense was missing a ton of their key players this year. They lost Bosa, Armstead, Dee Ford, Ziggy Ansah for most of the season, Sherman only played 4 games, and no Solomon Thomas. Those are all some key pieces to their defense. Bosa and Ford are two of the best edge rushers in the league and Armstead, Ansah, and Thomas are no slouches either. Saleh makes that defense work.
shockingly sane! not a jerked to be found here!!! that was supposed to say... not a JERKED KNEE to be found...
I’m aware of the work he’s done but Smith has put together a top 5 scoring offense in both years as OC and a 2000 yard rusher, so both guys have been excellent coordinators, What makes Saleh the right guy for the job over Smith if its a wash that they are both excellent at their jobs?
Hey, I'm not down on him, he just doesn't get me too excited. If we sign him, I'll be fully supporting him.
This guy has an impressive background. Would be happy with him or Saleh but I would like to see how he interacts with players. We know what Saleh is.
Doesn't having Henry make coaching the O easier? I mean, does he get a lot of credit for not using the run and shoot because he has Henry? I'm being facetious, and I hope you are right about him if we hire him.
Nobody on this board can truly answer that question unless they've interacted with them. If everything is exactly equal and their abilities to lead a team are the same, then I would take Smith because I'd rather have the offensive system stay the same. Saleh strikes me as a better leader and I like his energy on the field; I don't think he will have any difficulties motivating his team to play for him. To add to that, Saleh seems to have done more with less when compared to Smith. Smith has had the best RB in the league the last two seasons, as well as a very good OL, a superstar receiver in Brown and another solid receiver in Davis. He also had a QB that can play highly efficient football with a sky high Y/A. Smith has had everything to work with in Tennessee. With that being said, I still believe his system works and would be a great fit for Fields or Wilson.
Yes most of his career in the NFL has been with Tennessee, but he also coached two years with the Washington football team. He also coached at Ole Miss for a year, so one or more of those he coached with there could be coaching in the NFL now. I'm sure that he knows many other assistant coaches. There are only 32 teams in the league. There are meetings for coaches, and many ways in which he could meet and become friends with other assistant coaches/coordinators. I'm not worried at all about his ability to put together a competent CS. I don't know why you wouldn't be impressed with his offensive scheme. Let's look at Henry as an example. Henry was a rookie in 2016. He had 110 rushes for 490 yards (4.5 ypc) and 5 TDs. His sophomore season, he had 176 rushes for 744 yards (4.2 ypc) and 5 TDs. In 2018, he had 215 rushes and 1,059 years (a 4.9 ypc) and 12 TDs. In 2019 Smith took over and Henry had 303 carries for 1,540 yards (5.1 ypc) and 16 TDs. This past season he had 378 carries for 2,027 yards (5.4 ypc) and 17 TDs. He also had 16 carries over 20 yards and 4 over 40. He had 98 1st downs (25.93%) of their first downs. That's a weapon. Why wouldn't you use him? He is better than Tannehill, a least the equal of AJ Brown and better than Corey Davis, and better than Jonnu Smith and the other TEs. He's the best weapon they have. Smith used Jonnu Smith well. Smith's 1st two season he had 18 and 20 receptions for 157 and 258 yards respectively, and since Smith took over as OC, J. Smith's numbers went up to 35, then 41 receptions for 439 and 448 yards, and his TDs went up from 2, 3, and 3 to 8. Smith coached defense for 5 years and has coached offense for 9. That's better than Daboll, and they're the only two who have experience coaching both units, and imo that makes them more qualified to be the CEO HC that JD is looking for. I don't understand why you and some others don't think he can lead men. Why, because he's not a rah-rah, run up and down the sidelines type? I'll bet if you asked Titans players, the coaches he has worked with and the 4 HCs he has coached under, they'd tell you something very different. He's coached under Mike Munchak D Quality Control, O Quality Control and OL), Ken Whisenhunt and Mike Mularkey (Asst. TE Coach & TE Coach), and Mike Vrabel (TE Coach and OC). I'm sure he learned from each of them. Also, how often is it that an assistant coach is kept through 4 different HC regimes? He must be a pretty damn good leader and coach to do that. As I told another player, "feelings" is not the way to judge anything this important. Feelings lie to us, and we may have no idea where they came from. I'm not saying that he should be the guy, but I don't understand the lack of respect for him and what he's done.
can't speak for others, will guess its has to do perception of him as being a "culture changer" type. more charismatic, mogtivator et ceet
Not true at all. I gave examples earlier why that is nonsense. Josh McDaniels of the Patriots (great rankings and stats, and a horrible HC). Brian Daboll mostly lousy rankings and stats until this season, but his QBs were awful. No one could have produced great rankings or stats with those losers. Once he had talent to work with, BOOM!
The talent that Smith has in Tennessee might not have been anywhere near as productive with Adam Gase as OC or if Smith had forced them to fit a system that didn't fit their talents.
Rich kids don't get opportunities to coach in the NFL if they can't coach. Rich kids don't last through 4 HC regimes in a variety of different positions and then get promoted to OC if they can't coach. Your post is nonsense.
It's a two way street. I definitely think Smith has the system to be a successful NFL HC but I want someone who can be a leader of men and a true culture changer.
no within that post. so, i was appreciating some sanity since so many pearl clutchers were wetting themselves cos saleh was not chained to a radiator and made to sign...
You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but it's based on ignorance. You ought to do yourself a favor and learn more about him. He wouldn't have kept a job on 4 different HCs CSs if he couldn't coach and couldn't relate to players. He's not coaching as a "hobby." Just because his father is rich doesn't mean that he's a lazy trust fund moron like the Johnsons.
He may not have developed or he may have. We don't know. We do know that he put him in position to succeed. He put Tannehill in an offense built around what he does well and what Henry does well.
What's to say that Smith isn't a leader of men and a true culture changer? He has certainly led a lot of different units for Tennessee, and the players seem to like him and have played well for him. A lot of the culture comes from the types of players that JD will draft. When you draft a player who loves the game, was a team captain, has great character, a great work ethic, and a burning desire to be the best he can, there's really no work left for the HC to do. All the HC has to do is work them hard, make it fun, yet instill discipline, put them into position to succeed, get them to play smart and hard, and then win. I think a lot of posters are overthinking this or going solely on emotion in themselves or that the candidates have displayed. That's not leadership.
Tannehill was decent in Mia, mostly...had a bad year after missing 19 games to knee and the injury shoulder when he did return. he put mariota in position to succeed to, but he didnt. cos tanny is better executing this offense. henry runs well. they stopped giving to worse backs and gave him the carries, i think smith is a legit OC. just that i also think people give coordinators wayyy too much credit fot the performance of players. tanny also has only thrown fpr 133 yds/game in 4 playoffs games. thats sanchez like.
