LOL, you're missing the entire point! This is not about one-year-wonders. Holy shit man. It''s all about coaching. If you can't grasp my point then whatever. Maybe you have some point I missed, but coaching is all that's needed to get Darnold going, same like VT. Too much BS about booting and giving up on a young player. Just nonsense.
I grasp your point. But first of all you're comparing different eras again which is just so difficult even though you won't acknowledge it. If you want to make the coaching point, go to Alex Smith or someone else. Vinny T having one great season with us doesn't really prove the point very well. That moves the point into one year wonder territory rather than coaching. Maybe coaching fixes Darnold? Maybe it also doesn't though dude.
Sanchez won 4 road playoff games....Darnold hasnt even had a winning season yet.Not to say Sanchez was a better QB but he had a few good years.
Remember during Sams rookie year when he was “injured”(wink-wink) and he came back and played better? Fingers crossed that happens here! Here’s a better question though. I think the other QB in the draft beyond Lawrence is Fields, haven’t heard much about him. Is he worth scrapping Darnold for if we can’t get Lawrence for whatever reason?
Interesting. I think Sam will prove everyone wrong, but time will tell. He is in a bad spot for sure.
Darnold's the kind of QB that is going to stretch out the play as much as he can when it's not working. He's the kind of QB who is going to make a risky throw vs throwing the ball away. He's the kind of QB who is going to do everything he can to get a throw off. He's the kind of QB who isn't going to duck and cover when the the rush is right in his face and he has no way out. All of these tendencies make him a high-risk/high-reward type when things are going well and a walking disaster area when things aren't. I don't know if it is possible for a QB with Sam Darnold's tendencies to succeed on a low-talent team. Everything he does is to try to keep things going and as the break downs occur all around him his tendency to break down himself goes way up. I think one of the better comparisons for Sam is to a young Ben Roethlisberger. Roethlisberger's tendencies were so extreme that the Steelers kept him in a rookie bubble for two seasons before they let him start leading the way. That third season he reverted to a turnover machine with 23 picks thrown and 5 fumbles. It took him until his 4th season to really start to get things under control. The difference between Roethlisberger's early surroundings and Darnold's is pronounced. Big Ben had a strong veteran HC. He had a good to great OL. He had good WR's. He had a great running game. He had a strong veteran defense backing him up as well. The Jets have not put Darnold into a rookie bubble, ever. They have not supported him well on offense or defense, ever. The odds on him suddenly succeeding here are probably astronomical at this point. It takes a good football team to raise a young QB and Sam was one of the youngest ever. This, btw, is not on Gase primarily. It's on Maccagnan.
New QB on the field (Flacco), same horrifically embarrassing fiasco on offense. Maybe, just maybe Sam is not the problem.
Sam isn’t the the only problem but he is part of the problem. Anyone who thinks otherwise clearly doesn’t watch any of the film. Flacco actually played decent today outside of that first throw that was off target.
Flacco didn’t try to force things like Sam sometimes does, but other than that looked the same out there. Again, no receivers except Crowder. Even the commentators said only Crowder finds separation on the Jets. We have 1 NFL standard wideout! No QB can succeed with that lack of talent, especially one has lost confidence due to bad OL play in his fist 2 years in the league.
Agreed this is the worst collection of talent I’ve ever seen on a jet team .. they couldn’t beat Ohio State or Alabama
This game against the Cardinals shows it’s not all Sam, but the picks and rookie mistakes in year three are. We are severely lacking offensive talent. It puts us in an interesting position, since it’s pretty much written we’re getting the #1 pick. Do we go with more offensive weapons and shore up our D? Or do we go with another QB and build around him. At this point, it’s looking like we could just blow up the team and start over.
At some point thoguh we actually have to start building - you dont need the #1 QB pick to have success - you need a good team and a good QB - a good QB can come anywhere if the team is built around them and the coaching is good - get in a good coach, fix the o line, get some receivers and then worry about who is taking snaps because taking another QB at the top of the first round into a team totally bereft of talent is just going to be another disaster
Sam's been struggling, there's no doubt about it. But give him a real HC, OC, and QB coach and I'd bet he becomes the player we thought he would be. Watching the offense pathetically struggle this season is a far greater indictment of Gase than Sam. NO position on offense is improving. That man's offensive philosophy is asinine.
Agreed I’d rather the Jets get a real coach trade the pick and get multiple pics to fix this shit show team... Mark my word if we get rid of Darold someone’s going To coach him up and fix all the damage that Adam Gase did to him..
Look no further than Ryan Tannehill he gets away from Gase... didn’t he win come back player of the year?? and he took The titans to the AFC Championship game
