Forever the Optimist : Sam no longer "seeing ghosts" new OL with Big Ticket Becton bully defenders Bell and Gore avoid retirement, Crowder, Tight Ends make all the clutch plays Mims replaces r anderson, rookie Cali Kid lights it up at Safety. Plus , Greg Williams D keeps us in most games Passing Yards: 4,050 Completion Percentage 66% Passing TD's: 30 Interceptions: 12 Rushing Yards: 250 Rushing TD's: 4 Fumbles: 3 W/L Record: 9-7 Jets squeak into Playoffs but lose WC game due to poor Coaching
I think there are going to be a whooooole lot of disappointed folks on this board come December... At this point I just want to see him play 16 games.
oh ya some of those numbers are wishful thinking....i'm looking for incremental improvements. Given a slightly better o-line that will take a bit to jell, and mims/herndon additions, sam SHOULD put up somewhat better numbers. I think the 2nd half will be better as the oline figures it out and mims learns the ropes.
I don't think they're too outrageous. Even with the receiver injuries he has the best supporting cast he's ever had (including line), the first time he's walks into camp in the same system, and the trajectory of his improvement (based on year one to two) tells us he should start throwing more touchdown passes and completing more passes. His biggest negatives coming out of college were turnovers (including fumbles). He's been hit and pressured a ton in his first two years and turnovers haven't been an issue. What do you think his stat line will look like?
I really can’t gauge it whatsoever. We have no idea what this OL is, if Perriman will even play a majority of the games, if Mims will adapt.... way too many variables and then you couple with with a tough schedule, bad coaching and bad playcalling. If literally everyone stays healthy I can see something like 3500 yards 25 TD 12 INT 63%
Darnold is the type of QB good for 1 interception a game at least. Even when he's good. If you have him playing all 16 games and your stat line doesnt include 16+ INTs then I dont think you have paid attention to his game
7 of his 13 INTs came in two games last year. He had 6 over the other 11 games. I agree that he’s going to have a fair amount of INTs but I think it’s going to be mostly because of these isolated implosions, not because he’s consistently making bad decisions.
26 NFL games played, 28 INTs. The results speak for themselves. You can count on him to throw 1 per game
Thats a pretty black and white way to look at it but if you want to look at it that way, sure. Like I said he’s going to throw a good amount of INTs but it’s not going to be like Eli or Rivers where every game there’s just mind-numbingly stupid decisions. Some more context: 14 of his 28 INTs came in four games. That means he’s had 14 INTs in the other 22 games. That’s why your logic isn’t exactly airtight.
I admit that my prediction is optimistic, but it's based upon what I believe Sam has to do to prove he's the FQB he needs to be. And I think he's had to overcome a lot of adversity, and he has done that, which is a big plus for a young guy who came out early, so I believe some optimism is warranted. Would I be shocked if he doesn't achieve my predicted numbers? No. Disappointed? Yes, and depending on why he didn't achieve them, it might make me start thinking in terms of the Jets needing to at least look for someone to compete with him for the job - maybe an open competition with him, Flacco, and Morgan next year...and depending on their draft position, if they've got a top 3 pick, maybe consider taking the best QBA.
That's one way to look at it. You can also take a more reasonably optimistic view and assume he's learned how to not force the ball, coupled with the improved OL that reduces the pressure he was under and say his interceptions/game will go down. That said, I wouldn't be upset with 16 INTs if he tosses 25-30 TDs.
That's actually what I have in terms of a prediction as well. Numbers I have in terms of ranges: 3500 - 3800 yards 22 - 25 Touchdowns 2 - 3 Rushing Touchdowns 10 - 13 interceptions 60-63% completion percentage. I'd be impressed if he plays better than this. Especially with the 'talent' on paper.
I don't want to hear about "predictions". I want to see 'Results'. Put up or shut up time for Sam Darnold. 3rd year; no excuses. Playoffs or bust.
I predict Sam throws for 1300 yards 10 TDs and 1 INT through the first 5 games and people start screaming that Gase is holding him back and running the ball too much and then when he opens up the passing game Sam throws 4 INTs the following game, and the same people call for Gase to be fired. By the way, Gase sucks and should never have been hired.
Some of the stat predictions don’t line up with the record predictions. If Darnold throws for more TD’s than the entire offense scored last season, we’ll win more than 6 games.
True enough, I just don’t see how our QB throwing 30 TD’s leads to the teams record regressing. I guess if there’s any team that can find a way to do it, it’s the Jets.
