Came here to post this. 4 years, $40M with 21.5M guaranteed. If the Jets can sign Robby for that then sign me up. This is the team that gave $20M guaranteed, signing Robby is a no-brainer.
Robby deserves to be extended. Undrafted free agent that has faaaaaaar exceeded what anyone could've predicted for him when he came in as a rookie. He is the kind of player that deserves a extension. BUT Scary times it seems like the Jets pay guys then they go on IR soon after.
This is spot on, Mason Rudolph inability to give them basic QB play is the reason they were so inconsistent. Jets also had something similar in 2009-2010. Terrific oline, run game, WR, defense and decent coaching. I know Anderson is being talked about as a good number 2, but imagine how much more productive he would be if Jets had a terrific oline that could control the line of scrimmage for both passing and running the ball?
He would still be a good number 2. Nothing changes for him except Sam actually has time to throw. Yes his numbers go up. But they go up "from shouldn't be on an NFL roster" to a "solid wr2". He is a deep threat. A good deep threat, but he's not going to be a red zone threat, needs to learn more routes, and I wouldn't trust him as a 50/50 threat fighting for it in the air.
I don’t think that’s the case Kurt, what I believe is happening is the realization that a team can have elite WR and not be competitive because their oline sucks. Example of this is the Rams, a lot of fans started questioning Jared Goff, the HC, when the problem all along was the oline, now that the patchwork oline with a veteran LT have played a full season together the Rams are gaining some traction and playing better. The Niners are an example of a team that does not have an elite WR on the roster, their top WR has 600 yards for the season, and they rely on a TE with 700 yards for the season as their primary weapons. What is it that the Niners have? A terrific oline, that has a RT which was selected at the number 9 spot behind Quentin Nelson at number 3 that year. They give Garrapolo time to throw and have a RB by committee attack that sees their top two RB average over 4 yards per carry. I get your sentiment Kurt, we don’t want the jets to be blinded by a need for oline and let other positions go by the wayside, however as we have seen time after time in the NFL, you can be a competitive team with a good oline and defense. Teams will never be competitive with a bad oline no matter how good their other skilled positions are, hence why Luck retired, guy said enough after playing behind a bad oline for so long. I would also give Anderson and extension....
But this draft is so deep we could get quality o line in the 2nd round. Actually I like the oline available in the late 1st and through the 2nd and 3rd round more than the ones projected at the top of the 1st. Why waste the high pick on players that we can get later. I'm not saying we should draft a WR at 9 or wherever we pick. I have been a huge advocate for trading back and acquiring more. But I wouldn't be angry for taking a WR in the first because of how deep the o line is in this draft. IMO its way deeper than any other position. Heck Gage Cervenka is an upgrade we could get in the 4th or 5th. He will need to develop but I think he's better than Harrison already.
I disagree, guys have been using your argument against Anderson since he first came in the league and he has proven to be more reliable and productive than Enunwa who most fans on this board have been enamored with since he first wore a jets uniform. The guys has gone through 4 different OC, a horrendous GM who has given the offense nothing and has still managed to develop into a number 2 receiver His route trees are determined by the play call, he has no control over that, fix the oline and I bet Sam having more time finds him for more big plays than you can count.
Its not an argument. His routes are determined by the coaching staff according to what they think the player can accomplish. I agree he's better than Enunwa, that's not a big accomplishment. And I agree our Head coach is a moron. All that said Robbie has never and will never show the ability to be a complete receiver. His rate at 50/50 balls is not there. He is no redzone threat. And his routes are what they are for a reason. If he gets better at routes good on him. I also agree an oline will help him. But it will help him on deep routes which is what he is good for. I also think he would be good paired with a big bodied wr that is a redzone threat. That still doesn't make him a true #1.
I don’t know what Gase scheme is and how he has Anderson rated on his play calling, but to say he needs to get better at routes is not accurate, the route tree is very simple, just because he has outstanding speed and can burn the CBs doesn’t mean he doesn’t do the others well. I’m sure you watch the games as well, I have seen Robby run every other route in the route tree over his course of time as a jet with no problems, again it depends on the scheme and whether he is primary receiver or not on the play call. There are some go routes but when you watch the video, all other routes in the route tree are being run by Anderson. With exception of fade route in the end one.
As I have said I like Anderson. I hope we resign him for WR2 pay. 4 year 40 million sounds great. I wouldn't pay him much more. He's not a complete WR. If we are in redzone and the defense has him covered he gets lost in the bodies. You put a big target like a B. Marshal type out there with him, he becomes better. Defense has to adjust to cover the big receiver who can fight for 50/50 balls, leaving Robbie to us his speed to seperate from single man coverage. At no point am I saying don't keep him. But if he wants 15 million+/ year send him packing. He's not worth it.
I wouldn’t give anyone but a franchise HOF QB or a HOF OLB that can dominate and change a game and maybe a HOF LT $15 million a year as a GM.
With increasing cap more players are going to demand 15 mil + a year. If we had a Julio or today's Revis in his prime I could see it. Not sure I would like it but I could see it. But I agree QB, LT, and pass rush are the most important.
He isn't a good route runner at all. He does run more routes than we all give him credit for (myself mainly), but he rounds things off a ton. Which create shorter corners for the defensive backs to recover. He gets away with it because he has excellent speed. And he has excellent speeds in just about all sorts of movements. I don't see getting stronger in the cards because his frame just really can't support it without taking HGH and then he's going to lose his speed. He'd get even more separation if he becomes a better route runner. I think part of the reason he hasn't is because he hasn't played with many other NFL receivers that push him. Or veterans that can show him the tricks of the trade. Regardless. If free agency was filled with receivers we could search for one. But it's not. He'd probably be the third or fourth available. We MUST keep him
That’s a different argument JV, running crisp routes versus not being able to run multiple routes. I do concede to him not running crisp routes and your assessment of him rounding out some of his routes is true, I noticed that as well. I would like to keep him as well hopefully jets can tie him up for $10 million with some money up front and flexibility at end of contract years.
Off season priorities 1) oline 2) oline 3) oline 4) head coach 5) CB 6) oline 7) edge rusher 8) oline
One of the biggest complaints about Robby was he struggles with contested catches. The eye test shows he's getting more aggressive, going up for the ball, and the stats back this up. He definitely still has room to grow. The issue with Robby this year isn't really something he can control, it's more so the fact that this OL can't block long enough for Sam to uncork a deep ball to him. He's one of the best deep threats in the game with his speed and tracking ability. There is no reason not to re-sign him to a 10-11M per year deal.
No doubt at 10million per year he's a keeper. I still think pairing him with a Tee Higgins, Antonio Gandy-Golden, Collin Johnson type player would be great. Some big target with great hands. Let Robbie stretch the field, he could open up huge holes for a big bodied receiver and Crowder, not to mention Herndon/Griffin.
The Raiders gave Tyrell Williams 11M per year, I think the Jets are looking at something like 12 per year. I wouldn't even hesitate to do that if I were Joe Douglas. Robby is a solid weapon for Sam and with the current state of the roster, it would be pretty stupid to let him go assuming his price doesn't hit ridiculous numbers
