Did Darnold Progress, digress, egress? (Merged)

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  1. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    If he took the sack, the clock may have run out. He simply should’ve thrown it in the stands long before he tried throwing whatever duck he did throw.
     
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    The play ended with 49 seconds on the clock. Even if Darnold took the sack, the Jets could have spiked it before time expired.
     
  3. PulseJet

    PulseJet Well-Known Member

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    Of course. Its a bad thing to do. But when you look at the replay the defender already wrapped his arm around Darnolds left arm, so even if he took the sack the ball wasnt secured. Shit show all around. The play before was a catch and TD by Griffen. Bad call by the refs. Bad play call by Gase. 2nd down you try to run it in.
     
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  5. Wahoo

    Wahoo Well-Known Member

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    Here’s what I see with Darnold from my experience: I saw Peyton Manning on a bad Colts team, and Troy Aikman on a bad Dallas team, and I’ll go as far back as Archie Manning on an always bad back then Saints team. While they couldn’t of course turn those teams into winners on their own, you could see what they would become. Even though they were running for their lives, they still hit open receivers. They made smart decisions. As bad as their teams were, they never lost confidence or doubted themselves.

    Unfortunately I don’t see any of that with Darnold. Yes he’s only 22, understood. And he’s yet to play a full season. But you’ve got to start questioning him. Missing open receivers. Terrible decision making. I mean, his intelligence was supposed to be his biggest selling point, right? And even the casual fan notices his mechanics are terrible.

    Yes, the team is bad. But the big time QB transcends the bad team. Many say oh put a team around Darnold and he’ll do fine. You could say that about almost any NFL QB. That’s not a franchise QB. That’s a game manager.

    I really hope I’m wrong about him. But his play isn’t inspiring confidence, bad team notwithstanding.
     
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  6. Pepsiguy5

    Pepsiguy5 Well-Known Member

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    I still believe.

    I'm not saying Darnold is infallible, and maybe I'm being a homer, but I really feel like if he gets a little bit better protection (or ANY protection for that matter) he'll start to perform better quick. Over the games he's played, aside from the default situation of pass rushers getting to him before they should with pressure I can't believe the number of times his line has allowed absolute open lanes for completely unblocked defenders to get to him and the # of times that they can't even snap him the football effectively.

    Better days lie ahead.
     
  7. MoWilkBeast

    MoWilkBeast Well-Known Member

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    For the most part he's moving the ball well outside the red zone. Penalties and the OL are what kills most drives. He misses the odd open receiver but who doesn't? He is trying to do too much for sure and is a bit scrambled and makes boneheaded decisions under pressure. Not that many of them considering how much he is getting pressured really, but they all seem to be catastrophic. He will either get through this or he won't, but if he can I still think he's going to be good.
     
  8. nevbeats319

    nevbeats319 Well-Known Member

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    why when ever a young QB sucks they get compared to the rare awful rookie years of the Peyon Mannin or Tryo Aikmans. Those are two rare one. Every top drafted QB is on a BAD team.
     
  9. jilozzo

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    its so easy to critique the hardest position in sports from your chair but he certainly has regressed. Now the trick is to decide if its due to the ineptness around him OR is he entering david carr territory.

    the jets have to assume its the former and quickly improve the team.
     
  10. Wahoo

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    That’s true, but my point is that the QBs that go on to be the so called “franchise” types elevate the play of those bad teams just with their talent. Darnold has yet to do that imo.


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  11. BrowningNagle

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    Darnold like mentally checks out for periods of the games. There is no excuse for that. Yesterday he was in the grasp he just chucked the ball and it hit the back of his lineman's helmet and the Jets were fortunate it wasn't intercepted.

    The embarrassing safety was on Darnold too. He signaled for the snap and then he wasn't ready for the snap. WTF dude. You have to be focused on the game every moment when you are on the field. this is the NFL, we can't be surfer boys content with throwing a few 'gnarly' passes for the highlight reel and then whoops, 'my bad bro' later in the game.
     
  12. nevbeats319

    nevbeats319 Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you 100%
     
  13. Biggs

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    I was very suspect of the Cardinals moves this offseason. They still have a crappy OL but Kyle Murray is miles better than Sam, Baker or Rosen. He was drafted to the worst team in football and he's playing well in spite of the fact he's a midget who goes down on arm contact.

    I've watched him and I see a kid who hates to lose, he takes it personally.

    The Cardinals are loaded with crappy talent on both sides of the ball. They play hard. It's part coaching but it's a lot the mindset of Murray. There's an intensity to him that's rubbed off on the entire team. Sam is a nice goofy kid.
     
  14. Longsuffering88

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    that pick was brutal I felt like it was happening in slow motion

    my irrational heart believes now he was throwing it away and was hit

    lol

    please let me have this one- don’t correct my eyes
     
  15. Acad23

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    The only thing dumber than that throw was the play design itself.

    Brutally stupid, Mr. Gase...brutally stupid.
     
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  16. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    they might need to check Darnold for a concussion.

    Today, on the idea that he's regressing:

    "I would say it's not true. Obviously the wins aren't coming and everyone on our team is... frankly, pissed off about it. As professional athletes, we go out there and want to win games. For me, personally, I feel like I have gotten better"

    On if he's having difficulty making reads:

    "The last couple weeks I've actually been seeing the field really well actually"
     
  17. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    Coincidence Darnold starts looking shitty with McCown gone?

    When they let Gase go, they need to get McCown back here at the QB coach.
     
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  18. PennyRoyal10

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    One of the positives of Sam coming out of college was his ability to put bad plays behind him and forget they happened - in reality, that's not necessarily a good thing. I wish he WOULD remember these boneheaded plays that he's making the last 3 weeks and stop repeating them...
     
  19. K'OB

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    Ghosts aplenty it seems.
     
  20. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    It sounds like he needs a reality check.
     

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