Hydro was being facetious. The ball was thrown ridiculously high. I understand being pressured and the need to get it out quick, but this was an 8-yard pass. My f*cking grandson could get that ball into Cotchery's hands from that distance. The very first thing a QB needs to remember is to remain calm under pressure. Look, I like Chad. I really like his leadership and smarts. And I like his accuracy. But even the accuracy goes out the window with a little pressure. If we're playing Green Bay and not much pressure, he's fine. But get some pressure into the equation and everything turns to shit real quick. I just hope Clemens has more than a good arm. I hope he's got some of Chad's good qualities while leaving his propensity for panic out of his repertoire.
I'm observing the 48 hour rule, but I do have to say that you probably just wrote word for word what I'd say at 7pm tomorrow night.
Chad "beat himself" for most of the day yesterday, that's what's so damned frustrating. If you've ever played singles tennis, for example, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Yes, there was pressure, but for the most part Chad didn't "put himself in a position to win" because he was too busy beating himself to a pulp. His strength has always been his accuracy in short passing and it went to hell in a handbasket, like it always does with a little pressure.
dude youve mentioned this tipped ball in three other threads now...do you really think that hideous pass 4 feet over cotchery's head that also happened to be tipped wasnt Chad's fault??? hahah go back to sleep dude
The pass before the moonball was to the shoelaces. This is the guessing game the WR's have to play with every pass when there's the slightest pressure. They've got to guess how much of a contortionist they have to morph into to catch what should be a simple, f*cking 8-yard pass. It turns into a real Three Stooges Act after awhile. I've seen it too many times now and I've had it.
Im with you....does steviep really believe that that INT should be labeled "a tipped pass" ? hahah if he does, he should be banned
One tipped ball? The ball sailed 3 yards over Cotchery's head. Not only was it 3rd and 8, and we needed the first down. Jerricho was wide open, and Chad threw it way over his head. And if you go back and look, there was so pressure, Chad had no reason to throw that ball high. It was 110% his fault. Not only that. Chad didnt even attempt to go deep. Not even one time, that is just uncalled for.
I think I need throat surgery to repair my vocal chords, honest to God. First the shoelaces, then the moonball... I was so aggrevated I thought I'd go into cardiac arrest.
Chad sucks, but his pretty boy face and spock ears have somehow roped in half this board.In all seriousness how any jet fan can watch Chad this season and not at least be curious as to who else we can get in here is mond boggling. Probably the same people who are happy just making the layoffs every 4 years or so and losing early...hell its only been 40 years, no rush
If we lose to Miami, I want to see Clemens play against Oakland. I am starting to get off the Chad band wagon. I want a super Bowl, I don't think Chad can win one. P.S. We are beating Minnesota.
Too many freak plays this year.... 1: Hail Mary in N.E. 2: Fourth Down Vs. Colts 3: Tipped ball in Cleveland. 4: Tipped ball vs. Bills I'm sure there have been others
VINNY would throw it down field as far as he could. If it was an INT, it was as good as a punt! When a guy throws INTS on short patterns, there is no comparison!
THAT, my friend, is an excellent observation. It's why Chad's INTs are so much more damaging. I'd like to see one more stat on INTs around the league... a stat that shows how many negative yards are given up per INT, or how many points maybe. Then you'd see the damage caused by INTs at close range, like ours. They're an absolute game-killer. Also, if you have a QB with a deep arm and he wings it down there and you get a pass interferance call on it, you get possession way down the field. Another good reason to have a QB who delivers the ball more than 30 yards.
Gentlemen, All season long, even when there was little or no pressure, Chad has been throwing passes high to his WR's. Every game they have gone up looking like basketball players going for a rebound. I'm amazed at how many times they were able to actually come down with those balls. All I kept thinking was that he's gonna get one of them killed at some point. Now one gets away and gets picked off for a TD. I think there is something wrong with his mechanics. Now the question is, can it be fixed? If so, then we still have a viable (read serviceable) QB. If not, then it's time to find his replacement.
The thing that's so damned perplexing about Chad's throwing is, one week he looks terrific and the next week it's horrible. Last week against the Packers, the announcer actually said, "Pennington is cutting them to ribbons with his passes." I turned to my wife and said, "God, when have you ever heard THAT?... Cutting them to ribbons!" He had the protection and the confidence started building and he WAS cutting them to ribbons. And it was a sight to see! But get the slightest pressure in there and..... the whole game changes. Pretty soon he's hearing footsteps all over the place and every pass... even the ones that my 8 year-old grandson could make to me in a heartbeat and place them right on the numbers... suddenly those passes have to be of the caliber that sends the WR to the Chiropractor's Office immediately following the game, such was the amount of body contortion necessary to catch the damned thing.
Heck, why don't we just throw in the Urlacher pick and the other pick he threw in that game. All freak plays, he's actually having a great season! Let's ignore the fact that he should not have even thrown that ball in the Colts game. Or that even without the pick against Cleveland he still played one of the worst games of his career. And if we're going to excuse freak INTs, how about we take away some of his TDs? Those 2 TDs in the first Pats game? Freak plays, they don't count! Does that work too?
no rhythm in jets offense every game the jets have done well they come out throwin, like the gb game, titans game, and most of their other games. Chad works on rhythm and adrenaline, like he did in 2002 when he was pumped up for everything. he is not a sit in the pocket, step back and throw passer. That ios why the no huddle works amazin, it lets him use his intelligence to change play opn the fly and he can get in a rhythm. In this game it was like run, run, throw. the offense was out of rhythm and even though chad was not throwing well, it did not help that he was not able to get into a good flow. Leon also needs to be used more, he avged like whnat 7 yds a carry. I agree that wouldnt happen if he was used more, but cedrics ypc would. Run up the middle 8 times is not creative, and brian looked more like hackett in this one
the o-line excuse doesn't hold either, because clemens got run down from behind without fumbling even once.
