Jets Need Director of Football Operations

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  1. MJK

    MJK Well-Known Member

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    Your mom needs a giant cock and I got one for her.
     
  2. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    We like them all and hope they are all the next great player of the Jets. But change it up a little Macc. It's like he's stuck on stupid. So many teams have drafted gems after the Jets picks.
     
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  3. NCJetsfan

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    I think it's that he isn't polished and isn't as NFL - ready as Bosa and Q.Williams are. The thing is you have to look at his growth, work ethic, and see the production he had against the best in college playing basically just on natural ability. He's only 21. Darnold wasn't a finished product by any means but they looked at his talent and potential. That's what you have to do with Allen. He's smart and works hard, and will fix the things he needs to fix. He will have an impact his rookie season, but he probably won't have the full impact he will have for a year or two, until he has mastered those other moves, better hand usage and converting speed to power. When he does, he has the potential to be the best pass rusher in the NFL and can also drop into coverage very well.

    It's really crazy how many people are dismissing him and have dismissed him.
     
  4. jdon

    jdon Well-Known Member

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    this direct report to CJ or direct report to Woody is awful. There has to be a filter between them and Woody if he is not going to have a conventional chain of command
     
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  5. Biggs

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    I don't dislike the Q pick. In looking at the draft, it looks to me like everyone in our division had more of a draft plan than we did. It's like were picking a guy and they were building a team. I think if you look at what the Colts did the last 2 years in the draft, it really has the look of a team with an actually plan.

    I think things are changing in the NFL. BPA or BPA for need is 1 part but in reality you have to acquire picks and really have a plan which includes development. I just don't get the feeling that we are operating on the same level as some of the other teams.

    I wouldn't sleep on Buffalo this year.
     
  6. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    If we draft a DT every other year as a perennial playoff team competing for the SB every year I would consider the possibility that it might somehow make sense.

    Given our record during this experiment I am also skeptical.
     
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  7. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Agree, if there was actually some plan behind it besides the big board and BPA, and it actually ended up working, yeah I'm good with it.

    Belicheat spent most of the 2000s drafting TEs early and most of the guys drafted ended up flopping. Then he hit on Gronk and the murderer both in the same draft. When you go through those failed TEs draftees, you can see that he was aiming for what those 2 ended up being, a big mauler with great hands and a WR/TE hybrid type. He wanted to attack the middle of the field because LBs were big, slow and plodding and most safeties couldn't cover.

    If there is a method to the madness, then it makes sense. But simply drafting BPA isn't a method, it's an excuse to be safe from the failure of taking chances on a plan.
     
  8. Footballgod214

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    'Fans' refusing to give Mac credit for taking the best player, saying 'he fell into his lap'.

    Actually, the ENTIRE DRAFT (save 2 players) 'fell into his lap'.

    Macc could have selected ANYONE he wanted. Macc could have fallen in LOVE with a player we never heard of.

    Macc could have traded the farm to move up one spot and taken a bowling ball with knives (and bad knees).

    Macc could have felt the pressure from TGG and taken Josh Allen.

    Macc could have taken a DB he was convinced would be the next Revis.

    But he didn't, didn't, didn't.

    And he didn't get 'cute'. He could have traded down to the twenties to recoup a late 2nd, but didn't.

    He didn't take a TE work out warrior with Warren Sapp waiting in the wings. He took Warren Sapp.

    Give him some credit. There's SO many ways he could have screwed this up, but he didn't.
     
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  9. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    You're absolutely right - the team needs a plan, a blueprint, and I just don't see that Macc has one beyond his precious BPA. That is why he needs to go away.
     
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  10. ColoradoContrails

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    There are ways he could've done much better, but he didn't. Just because he didn't "screw it up" doesn't mean he did a good job. I mean really, think about that: if you had a guy working for you and the best thing you could say is "Well, he doesn't screw things up", would you really keep him on the payroll?
     
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    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    I'm referring to fans who refuse to give mac credit for Sam. "Sam fell into his lap"

    I'm referring to fans who refuse to give mac credit for Leonard Williams. "Leo fell into his lap".

    on and on. Well, almost THE WHOLE DRAFT fell into his lap, could have taken any player, and stuck with who he felt was BPA.
     
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    I see your point. In the end Macc does have to choose, and while I'm not a big fan of Leo, and didn't like the pick then, he's an above average player (but drafted at #6 should've been a superstar). And with Sam I have given Macc credit for trading up to get a QB, but he did get lucky that Sam fell to #3, but as you said Macc still had to make the pick and he could've taken Allen or Rosen but didn't.

    Speaking for myself, I've consistently given Macc a C- and that takes into account credit for his good picks, but my main gripe with him is twofold:

    1. After Round 1 he sucks.
    2. He doesn't seem to have an overall blueprint for the type of team - and therefore the type of players - he wants. It's always BPA regardless of need. Great teams have blueprint and sign players according to how they fit it. That's why they sustain greatness even when they lose players and coaches. If Macc has a plan, it's invisible.
     
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    It's worse than that. The one year he wasn't picking in the top 6, he chose Darron Lee. It's more like he sucks on everything but top 6 picks, but he keeps getting top 6 picks because he sucks.
     
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    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Buffalo had an amazing offseason. We could easily be behind them now. ColoradoContrails has been saying for 5 years that Mac doesn't appear to have a plan, and I agree.
     
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    What was so amazing about Buffalo’s offseason? I think they had a nice offseason and what looks to be a good draft but I’d love to know what you thought was so amazing about their offseason and how it was so much better than ours?
     
  16. Stagman

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    Atlanta biggest need was the OLine they drafted Guard and OT with their two first round picks. Colts needed defense, with 10 picks they used 7 picks on the defense.
     
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  17. Footballgod214

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    I agree with you in that Mac does not deserve a great GM drafting grade. He's stayed true at the top and brokered for Sam, which is a vast improvement over past GMs. He's also done good at the bottom, especially with UDFA walkons (Anderson). If we only graded GM's on their 1st round and late round pics, Mac gets an A.

    But his mid rounds have been lacking. Herndon is really the only 'star' we've gotten. I'll give Mac a pass on Hackenberg taken in the 2nd, since we were desperate for a QB, and that's the main job of the GM (at least he didn't take Hack in the 1st round like the Giants). He passed on Mahomes, but would have needed to use his #6 overall (which in hindsight may have been the pick) or traded down an prayed.

    This is Mac first go at GM, and hopefully now that we have our FQB inder ink he can focus much more on the entire draft. We didn't have a lot of draft capital this year so it's hard to evaluate, especially with all the 'needs' we had that didn't get addressed (C, DB, WR). He may have done the best he could with Polite, we'll see. But again, not picking for almost 2 days is tough to overcome.
     
  18. Rockinz

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    Curtis Martin. He’s the man for the job.
     
  19. Biggs

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    They rebuilt their OL, added weapons at WR and running back and got a top 5 talent in Ed Oliver in the draft. They did what we should have done. Getting Oliver and moving up to take Cody Ford was an outright home run. They also got a potential all around TE with NFL speed.

    What they did was give Josh Allen a chance to succeed.
     
  20. Harpua

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    Agreed. They had a very good offseason. We have had one that looks great on paper but should get our GM fired because we still lack an NFL center on our roster and spent way too many picks on part time athletes not football players.
     

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