The Official Jets Coaching Search Thread

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Who do you want?

Poll closed Jan 10, 2019.
  1. Eric Bieniemy (Chiefs OC)

    9.0%
  2. Jim Caldwell (former Lions HC)

    3.8%
  3. Adam Gase (former Dolphins HC)

    7.5%
  4. Kliff Kingsbury (USC OC)

    12.8%
  5. Mike McCarthy (former Packers HC)

    58.6%
  6. Todd Monken (Buccaneers OC)

    36.1%
  7. Matt Rhule (Baylor HC)

    24.1%
  8. Kris Richard (Cowboys DB)

    4.5%
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  1. JetsUK

    JetsUK Well-Known Member

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    I don't agree - for me the QB is the #1 factor for success in the NFL (especially in recent history) - the only team that has had consistent success over the least decade that doesn't have a top tier QB is the Ravens - you could put a great coach on a team with an average QB and they will struggle you could put an average coach on a team with a great QB and they will do well.

    If McCarthy would be good for the Jets then great but I would want it to be about more than just the fact that he has a winning record when almost any coach would have with those QBs - people talk about him developing Rodgers but I question how much difference it really makes to a player's development - if he is a great QB guru then who else did he develop? How did Aaron Brooks progress in the 4 years he was with the Saints? Who did he develop as the QB coach at the Chiefs?
     
  2. JetsKickAss

    JetsKickAss Well-Known Member

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    I'm leaning to McCarthy but like the idea of Gase. I want to know (1) what went wrong in Miami (2) Does he think Tannehill is a legit starting QB and (3) If so, why did Tannehill not excell ?
     
  3. Will-I-Am-Not

    Will-I-Am-Not Well-Known Member

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    That's kind of a naive assessment by Christopher Johnson. I don't think any talent evaluator in the NFL would look at the Jets' players and say that we have an impressive roster. Macc has routinely overpaid for suspect players like Crowell and Trumaine Johnson, and his drafting has been abysmal. In his four drafts, he's selected eleven players in rounds 2 through 4, six out of those eleven are no longer Jets, but what's worse, is that none of the six are on any NFL roster! The takeaway is that he used more than half of his picks, in the rounds of the draft where good teams find the bulk of their depth, on players that aren't good enough to play in the NFL. That's a damning indictment of his lack of aptitude as a personnel evaluator, which was supposedly Mac's strength when he became GM.
     
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  5. Imagesrdecieving

    Imagesrdecieving Well-Known Member

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    QB is a huge part of playing winning football. I can't argue that.

    What I am saying is that McCarthy successfully coached a quality organization for over a decade. That makes him AT LEAST competent.

    Even a HOF great QB isn't enough to win a SB. Any coach that wins a SB deserves credit regardless.

    Maybe there's a fresh up and comer that might wind up a better coach. But for the position our organization is in I think that it would be the best of all possible options to hire the most experienced/most successful candidate available.


    *Harbaugh disclaimer*

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  6. mr nyjet

    mr nyjet Well-Known Member

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    unfortunately, what the johnsons should do, and what they actually do/done
    are at odds with each other.
    they still have the same screwed up organizational structure, and won't hire a football czar, and won't pay top dollar for a great coach.
    reminds you of the Mets, if you live near the big apple.
     
  7. mr nyjet

    mr nyjet Well-Known Member

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    if mike mac says no, why not interview gase?
     
  8. Imagesrdecieving

    Imagesrdecieving Well-Known Member

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    Long suffering NY fan here.

    BVW feels like a the start of something new and different in Flushing.

    I'm going to hold on to hope that CJ is going to get that mojo started for the Jets with this hire!

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  9. mr nyjet

    mr nyjet Well-Known Member

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    which is exactly why there should have been a clean sweep.
    let the new guy overhaul the scouting dept. as well. is it gm incompetance in the drfat, or just bad scouting.
    they do belong to a scouting combine. how come other teams in the same combine do a better job in the draft?
     
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  10. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Sucks for you. More than one source has the Jets at the top of the heap. I haven't seen any that put them below number two.
     
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  11. mr nyjet

    mr nyjet Well-Known Member

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    i will buy into that when they sign a top guy for big money, like the yankees do.
    here in upstate, they had to buy the AAA syracuse baseball team, because nobody else in the IL wanted to affiliate with them.
    the wilpons reputation as cheapskates extend even up here. how they got AA binghamton is still a mystery.
     
  12. FrontOfficeFanatic

    FrontOfficeFanatic Well-Known Member

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    Can't hurt that some of the bigger names (McCarthy, Caldwell and Bienemey) are coming in for interviews....hopefully that chums the water a bit and shows we are a legit destination. This will enable us to get the attention of more coaches and coordinators.....and hopefully result in getting a better selection. Make the interview process as far reaching as possible.
     
  13. JetsUK

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    I agree that he would almost certainly be an improvement over what we have had and I would love to know if anyone has any insights as to his qualities as a QB coach as the #1 priority has to help Sam (in terms of both play and his supporting cast) - I just want it to be about something other than him having a winning record as I don't feel it really says much about his qualities as a coach given all he has had as QBs at green bay have been Rodgers and Favre (and I read somewhere his record is 6-13-1 when neither was playing).

    my dream would be for us to land a great coach like Andy Reid (who was just a QB coach not even a coordinator before he got the HC gig at the eagles) - one day it will happen
     
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    Their quality GM is a pain in the ass to get along with. And Mayfield for all his talent is a pain in the ass and headcase too. Plus he's older than Darnold and has way more weapons. He's not at any higher level than Sam mentally with how he reads the field

    We have a ton of cap room and we have a great young QB who is ready to be molded into a champ. Working for Jimmy Haslam is probably worse than the Johnsons. Haslam is a dolt
     
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    Because the Dolphins were not that good, and players were asking to leave if he was still there.
     
  17. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Nobody said they "wouldn't consider a coach seeking power." Every coach seeks power.
     
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  18. mr nyjet

    mr nyjet Well-Known Member

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    yes, we think alike.
    however, the johnsons do not and that is the sugar in the gas tank....:(
     
  19. AJW

    AJW Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't mean we are getting him. Hold your horses Francis

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  20. mr nyjet

    mr nyjet Well-Known Member

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    good thing! for a moment there, i was afraid you had a brain seizure
     
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