As I've said before, Macc needs to change his view that a good OL can be built with mid and late round picks. If he doesn't, his shiny new QB will get killed and he'll deservedly get fired. That's assuming he doesn't get the axe at the end of the season which I'm not completely against.
Is it really McCagnan's fault that the players he drafted have not panned out or the coaching and preparation? I'm not sure but as of now I lean towards dumping Bowles - the way the team looks out there, it's the millennium version of the keystone cops.
People attacking Maccagnan or suggesting he should be fired are wasting their time. The organization agreed on a FULL REBUILD after the 2016 season. Mac stripped the team, and started from scratch last year. No way he gets fired after this year, as this is just part of the process, and he seems to have found the franchise QB this team was needed for years. Mac has a plan and Chris Johnson knows it. Bowles is the one who is in trouble. If he continues to coach poorly, he will be gone.
Hey , I was very concerned about the idea that Darnold should start the season with that OL. Many here thought the he was ready and that it would be a great learning experience, but that was not the issue. The bigger question was - is the OL ready to support a 21yo wet-behind-the-years QB that had not played a meaningful NFL game? Well, know we know. And the next question: Will Darnold make it thru the 2018 season in one piece?
Yes, he's probably safer than Bowles. But, do you trust him to build the roster into a Super Bowl contender while Darnold is on his rookie contract? So far, his drafting has been shaky at best.
All true. It also helped Aikman and Dallas that the Vikes gave them a bonanza of draft picks for Hershel Walker at the same time, one of which they used to steal Emmit Smith with with the 17th pick in round 1.Who did the jets take with the 2nd overall pick that year in round 1? A different RB-- Blair Thomas.
I like your story about the bad clam. Good lesson for all of us--never watch the todd bowles-coached jets while eating anything which could affect your stomach.
I agree with you but i'm also unsure of how he fixes things quickly at this point. We need upgrades at 4 of 5 Olinemen, we need a couple more capable receivers, and our RB's are ok and Powell is on the wrong side of 30 iirc. The defense, where he has placed most of his assets, looks to be at best middle of the road. Its a hard sell that he is bringing in the right talent.
Don't have my draft book from 2017 anymore, but I remember being shocked that he took Safety Moye in round 2 after taking Safety Adams in round 1. Then I was more shocked when he took WRs Stewart and Hansen back to back in rounds 3 and 4 (just last year and neither on the active roster anymore). In 2017 draft I really thought WR was the only position the jets were decent at, and then McIdiot takes WRs in rounds 3 and 4. I do remember having a few OL in mind and hopeful of before each of the Moye, Stewart and Hansen picks. He closed out that 2017 draft with back to back CBs--how about taking a flyer on a OL just once? Maybe a guy like Dwayne White who the jets got in round 7 in 1990--a damn good run blocker for the jets. But that is an example--Compare his track record of drafting just TWO OL in 4 different drafts (both in round 5) to any other GM of any other team and I doubt you would find another GM with less of a priority on the OL than Mike McIdiot.
I think this is a complete representation of my feelings for mac right now. If there is a significant upgrade available I would not be against firing Mac and chasing after that person. But if there is not one available with interest in the Jets I would let mac stay for another year
Hes chosen to methodically build the roster via the draft w an emphasis on positional talent pools of strength on a year to year basis w foresight into future years. Its a method w some merit.Unfortuately the OL talent pool has been extremely shallow. This is what ended up costing Jerry Reese & mcadoo their jobs.Even the PR rationale on the lack of movement at the position from year to the next is similar.NYG was counting on health & cohesion.Jets counting on change at center,cohesion,health & new OL coach. Mac is gonna stick to his long term plan & hope that he survives to 2019 to nab an OL from a strong class hes likely had targeted for over a year much like in 17 w QB when he clearly had his eyes set on Darnold,Rosen,Allen in the following class. But if this OL continues to be dreadful hes not gonna make it till 19;Live by the sword die by the sword.
So Mac hires a new coach, blows some more drafts, we still suck, and then what? Fire Mac and keep the coach? Fire both of them? Keep both of them and extend the misery? Mac and Bowles were hired together, and they need to be fired together. Whether ownership will do that is another story. But they should.
I'm not saying Macc was crazy or stupid for looking ahead to 2018 for the "bonanza QB class", but doing so he looked right past Mahomes and Watson, and especially Mahomes. I know I'm playing the broken record to the choir here, but I need to say again: If he had taken Mahomes, he would not have had to use the draft picks to move up to get Darnold, and he could've gotten an elite pass rusher or OL this year, and maybe even a RB or WR. So, if this is his "methodology", he's risking making that same kind of mistake again. If there is a proven commodity that comes to light as a GM alternative I'm good with cutting Macc and Bowles together.
Usually GM's get to hire the head coach they want. Mac has not been given that chance yet. I would give him the 2019 season at least. Bowles I would have fired in 2016. Hindsight is 20/20. I am happy with Adams and Darnold, but I do get what you mean there.
Usually GMs are better than Mac. Also if you let Mac pick his own coach, you're giving him through 2020 at least. Unless you plan on firing the new coach after just one year. Or keeping the new coach and firing Mac, which would be a repeat of the Rex-Idzik debacle.
I'm gonna try to remember which OL I liked going into the last 4 drafts and who I would have picked. Of course, if I was actually the GM and had a lot more info on players, some, maybe all of these would be different. 2015 I probably would have traded down and taken Cedric Ogbuehi, OT in the 1st round I would have taken either Ali Marpet, OG or AJ Cann, OG in the 2nd round 2016 I would have either traded down or traded up and taken Jason Spriggs, LT In the 5th round I would have looked to take an OL for depth, maybe Shell, maybe Christian Westerman, OG 2017 I loved Ryan Ramczyk, but couldn't have taken him unless I could have traded back up into the end of the first round before the Saints, because I would have taken Patrick Mahomes, QB with the #6 pick in the 1st round, but since I had taken Spriggs the year before, there was no real need for another starting-caliber LT. I may have tried to trade up in the 2nd round to take Forrest Lamp, OG or traded down and taken Dion Dawkins, OG or Taylor Moton, OG, but probably would have stood pat with Marpet/Cann and Winters at OG. 2 - Quincy Wilson, CB 3 - Chris Godwin, WR 4 - George Kittle, TE 5 - Jordan Leggett, TE 2018 I didn't have as much time to watch games and read up on prospects beyond the first couple of rounds, so probably would have done something like this. 1 - Roquan Smith, ILB 2a - James Daniels, C 2b - Derrius Guice, RB Unless I had been convinced by a scout to take Vic Beasley in 2015, I still wouldn't have that edge rusher, but would have 4 new starters on the OL, a FQB, a potential #1 WR for him, 2 good TE prospects, and a starting RB for the offense, then for the D a #1 CB and a topflight ILB, and I don't know what else.
When Mac was brought in, in one of his early interviews he said he doesn't believe in selecting O-line high because he trusts his and his scout's ability to find offensive line talent in the mid and late rounds. I trusted him. he was wrong.
