Also since you threw it out. Gerald Mccoys stats after his first 3 seasons were not even as good as what Williams after 3..... soooo yeah not so sure what your point is You just continue to show you have 0 clue what you are talking about
So far in this thread we've "learned" that not only is Leonard Williams is no Aaron Donald (no shit) and should be traded for Leveon Bell.... He (and Wilkerson, and Richardson) is worse than Mike Devito and because he "sucks" he doesnt deserve "Signature hair" W T F
Even 100% sober this thread is a pile of worm/disease infested lama shit Ive been waiting 2 days for one of these football guru's to post one 34 DE with better stats than Williams on a team that has no edge rusher.
You are right cause even dog shit can be used as a fertilizer so tech its serves more purpose . I apologize ill edit my correction.
I feel sorry for the person that is paying you then because they are wasting their money. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this guy is not an impact player and not worthy of his #6 pick status. You are truly blind and you need cool your jets with your man love for this guy and not be biased. It’s quite okay to criticize a player who was drafted to be elite but isn’t. Its not way out there to be unhappy with a player that is nothing more than a run stuffer that is drafted that high. If it doesn’t bug you in the slightest that he has 2 of the first 3 games with not a single stat, you’re a fan of the wrong team.
My post was clearly worded wrong i don't get paid but the people who do disagree with you and agree with me. Please put your emotion and lack of football knowledge aside for one post. Please name a 34 lineman with better stats and production than Williams that is on a team with no edge rusher and i will concede to you. Again not named Watt or Donald. This is year 4 for him and it no longer matters where he was drafted it matters what he does on the field. Also again he has 5 solos tackles and 3 assists i think. Which by the way a majority if not all came in game two. So this 0 stat thing is incorrect as ive already pointed out.
The sons of Anarchy, what a joke! I remember Francesa saying they were all too similar, thus they get in each others way. One we got rid of a few their production would sky rocket! Lee, Adams, Leo were all supposed to be long gone by the time we picked, and it was fate smiling upon us when we got ‘em. Given those 3 so far..I’m worried about Darnold, who they said the same thing about
Who was the Jet-defensive lineman who before the 2017 season he predicted he wanted and expected 16 sacks, yes it was Leonard, no prediction that I know of this year, some of his headaches about being questioned were brought on by himself.
Just another example of some Jets fans overrating players on this team. He's slightly above average, nothing more.
can you name some of the the 34 dlineman that are better than him with out an edge rusher that arent named watt or donald? This assumption that goes against what all professional talent evaluators say with 0 supporting info is really funny to me
3-4 DE and 4-3 DT are essentialy the same position. Most of the time they are used inside now. This 3-4, 4-3 is so overrated, most of the time teams are in nickel. But to answer your question, not in any order 1. Brandon Williams 2.geno Atkins 3. Camron heywerd 4. Stephen tuitt 5. Calius camble 6. Malick Watson 7. Jurrel Casey 8. Daquan jones ( maybe the same level as Leo) 9. Derek wolf 10. Chris Jones 11. Fletcher Cox 12. Timmy jerrigan 13. Jonathan Allen ( already looks better then Leo) 14. Akeem Hicks 15. Mike Daniels 16. Sheldon Richardson (yes) 17. Defrost bruckner 18. Michael brockers All of those are better interior lineman then Leo. None of them were drafted with 6tb pick in the draft. Some of them aren’t even the best player at the position on there team!
( i have been drinking so excuse the typos) That was way too much to be doing at midnight but above and beyond anything that continues in this barn fire of a thread. Thank you for actually contributing to the debate and not just spewing opinion and disappearing like a majority of the posters have. I will repeat again. At this point it no longer Matter where he was drafted that should not be a concideration in wether we keep trade or allow to walk. It should be based on what he does for us and his performance ont he field. When it comes to resigning a player you dont say " oh i was drafted 6 overall 5 years ago so you have to pay me this much" thats stupid and not how it works so saying it over and over means 0. Take a look at some of the supporting cast a vast majority of the people you posted had. If Leanord Williams had been on the teams that a majority of the statistically better players had been on You honestly don't believe that Williams would have better numbers than currently? Last 3 years Stats Geno Atkins 29 sacks 81 tackles Carlos Dunlap Carl Lawson Micheal Johnson Calius camble 27 sacks 127 tackles Dwight Freeny Marcus Golden Chandler Jones Donte Fowler Malik Jackson Yannick NgaKoue Camron heywerd 22 sacks 86 tackles Stephen Tuitt Larence Timmons James harrison Bud Dupree Ryan Shazier TJ Watt Fletcher Cox 21.5 Sacks 92 Tackles Conner Barwin Brandom Graham Chris Long Derek Barnett (its fletcher Cox there isnt much for me to debate here) Akeem Hicks 19.5 Sacks 84 tackles Lamar Houston Willie Young Pernell Mcphee Jurrel Casey 18 sacks 106 tackles Brian Orakpo Derek Morgan (this man is a beast but still had edge rushers) Stephen tuitt 13.5 sacks 86 tackles Camron heywerd Larence Timmons James harrison Bud Dupree Ryan Shazier TJ Watt Derek wolf 13 sacks 90 tackles Von Miller Demarcus Ware Shane ray Shelby Hariis ( only posted 2 sacks last season) Mike Daniels 13 Sacks 86 Tackles Julius Peppers Clay Mathews Nick Perry Leanord Williams 12 sacks 87 Tackles Muhamid Wilkerson Sheldon Richdson David Harris Lorenzo Mulden Timmy jerrigan 11.5 Sacks 50 Tackle Elmer Dumervill CJ mosley Only got 2.5 sacks last year on the eagles defense Defrost bruckner 9 Sacks 88 Tackles Amad Brooks (only 2 seasons) (this is a legit mention 49rs didnt have much of a defensive pass rush and this kid played great) Lets not forget Williams 10 sacks 65 tackle at end of season 2 with a higher avg of 10 per game opposed to bruckners 7 Chris Jones 8.5 sacks 39 tackles (only two years) Dee Ford Justin Houston tamba Ali Sheldon Richardson 7.5 sacks 85 Tackles ( we already know 2 of the 3 season on jets) 3rd season Frank Clark Micheal Bennit Dion Jordan Dwight freeny Michael brockers 7.5 sacks 80 Tackles Aron Donald William hayes Robert Quin Conner Barwin Daquan jones 5 sacks 63 tackles Brian Orakpo Derek Morgan Jurell Casey (only posted 1.5 sacks in 2016 3.5 sacks in 2017) Brandon Williams 3 sacks 87 tackles last Elvis Dumervill Za'Darius Smith Lawrence Guy Terrel Suggs Matt Judon Jonathan Allen 1 Sack 3 tackles rookie year ( wont go in depth on this he only played 5 games) Williams tech had a better rookie season but played more snaps then him Malick Watson is this the right name no idea who this guy is? Now lets compare first 3 years int he league numbers..... First 3 Years in the League Geno Atkins 23 Sacks 77 tackles Sheldon Richardson 16.5 Sacks 104 Tackles Jurrel Casey 16 sacks 111 Tackles Mike Daniels 14 Sacks 62 Tackles Calius camble 13 Sacks 98 Tackles Timmy jerrigan 13 Sacks 47 Tackles Fletcher Cox 12 Sacks 112 tackles Leanord Williams 12 sacks 87 Tackles Michael brockers 11.5 Sacks 82 tackles Stephen tuitt 11.5 Sacks 80 Tackles Derek wolf 11.5 Sacks 63 Tackles Leanord Williams 10 sacks 65 tackles ( 2 seasons) Defrost bruckner 9 Sacks 88 Tackles (2 seasons) Camron heywerd 7.5 Sacks 58 Tackles Chris Jones 8.5 Sacks 39 Tackles (2 seasons) Akeem Hicks 6.5 Sacks 69 Tackles Brandon Williams 3.5 Sacks 67 Tackles leanord Williams 3 sacks 29 tackles (rookie season) Jonathan Allen 3 Sacks 7 Tackles ( rookie year) Daquan jones 2.5 Sacks 47 Tackles I still with 100% believe if we let Williams walk or trade him before we get this man a legit edge rusher we will be missing another boat here. The man is a great player and is only struggling because he does not have the supporting cast needed to be absolutely phenomenal.
I don’t care what the stats say, purley wacig him compared to other players, he doesn’t make any plays. Henry Andrrson distrupts plays more then him this year. I’m not saying Leo sticks. I’m saying is a about average but because he’s a bigger name then most players at his platoon because of his draft status he is going to want to get paid big cash.
