Im not waiting for perfect,,,I just want the kid upright and alive,,,I think its foolish to start the kid with SO many O line questions ,, time will tell
I'm almost starting to think this is Cakes' retarded cousin. But I used to read what Cakes had to say. The only thing I saw peripherally through my cataracts was so long Teddy.
GQ this is true but if the O line turns out to be turnstiles and it looks like a jail break all the ability in the world won't save him from getting injured
Didn’t you put one up about Teddy being traded, doing well with another team and Darnold not doing as well with jets as their starter? Would the trade look bad?
Kurt without even seeing them play a game and thats all together and intact I had questions , now with missing guys and questions everywhere and especially at LT ,,,,I would not have started the kid but thats me
I hear ya.Im hovering right there w you..that said hes gonna be in a very similar position to alot of other starting QBs in this league.i keep telling myself that as well as that i truly think if he can stay upright that this is the best thing for him.He seems to learn from his mistakes & the sooner he starts that process the better. I worry more about the run blocking right now than i do the pass pro..that could change as things get rolling but theyll at give sam a pocket(i hope)
OUR ONLINE IS NOT AS BAD AS PEOPLE MAKE IT OUT TO BE....IN PASS PROTECTION For the third consecutive game, left guard James Carpenter looked excellent in pass protection. Carpenter and the rest of the starters played 39 snaps as a group, 22 of which were on pass plays according to pro football focus. On those 22 pass plays, Carpenter didn’t allow a single pressure up the middle. On the same exact number of snaps, starting center Spencer Long surrendered 1 hit on Sam Darnold while right guard Brian Winters allowed just a single quarterback hurry. In looking at right tackle Brandon Shell just to get the full picture of how the starting offensive linemen performed, the third year tackle allowed one quarterback hit, but no sacks. In fact, the only offensive lineman to allow a sack against the Giants was the aforementioned Qvale who was playing out of position in place of Kelvin Beachum. Even when Darnold was feeling the heat against the Giants, it wasn’t necessarily because of poor blocking, but due to good coverage down the field. For example, Darnold had almost 4.5 seconds to get rid of the ball on one of his throws for which he was hit with an intentional grounding penalty. By NFL standards, that much time (4.43 seconds by our count) is more than enough to make a play. OLINE PROTECTION isn't going to get any better until '19 and you can't expect to sit him for a year so I say...... START SAM DAY 1 I worry more about run blocking......I HATE ZONE BLOCKING
Yep. That's not looking so far fetched when pair a guy with Sean Payton and that current team. I just hope it works out well for both guys.
Blah... Franchise has starved for a QB seemingly forever. We get not one but two promising QBs and we're in a rush to get rid of one. Everyone is anointing Darnold but high draft picks have gotten this treatment before. No one knows what he will be. I get it the team believes in him but iI didn't' see any harm in taking the cautious approach.
Holy shit... NFL live just reported the Saints have agreed to terms with the Dolphins. Miami will send Laremy Tunsil and their 2019 second and 4th round picks to N.O. in return Miami will receive Teddy Bridgewater and a conditional sixth round pick. Just kidding
Didn't read the thread but IMO We pulled the trigger too soon.... No O-Line No Team who needed a QB (Injury etc...) Not saying Darnold isn't the guy, just sayin we shoulda waited a lil bit.
That's fair, but in our situation we realized that Darnold was so far along that it didn't make sense to carry 3qb's anymore. And who knows maybe the extra roster spot it creates can be used to help bolster the offensive line. Plus just because QB injury happens doesn't mean a team is going to just throw us a 2nd for Bridgewater. Maybe they're happy with their backup. Maybe they decide to just tank the rest of the year and keep that 2nd rounder. Maybe they decide it's not worth it because it's difficult for a QB to walk in in season and learn a new offense
I thought at first, yea. That's early. But you think his value would have been any higher? It's risky. Jimmy Garropolo fetched a 2nd rounder and he was Brady's successor from Belichick who had a record of winning and playing extremely well. For Teddy to fetch a 2nd rounder he would need to throw multiple TDs in the 4th preseason game and even that would be against 4th stringers. I just don't see Teddy fetching a 2nd without actually playing him in the season and him playing very well. However, Darnold is their clear starter and future. But let's say Teddy starts and plays well....why trade him? I don't see them trading a QB who is playing lights out, they would have to wait until he starts making mistakes to play Darnold and at that point, his value is down. Teddy is healthy right now, he's shown unproven promise, and a team offered a pick in the 1st three rounds, outside of the conference. I like the trade. I think it would have been very hard to push the value up higher.
You seriously were expecting a 2nd rounder for Bridgewater? That ideal situation didn't ,materialize but it wasn't Macs fault. We didn't have a Romo breaking his back or Tannehill blowing his knee out this year He rehabilitated Bridgewater here and turned him into a free 3rd rounder. That's good
This is something I'd do in Madden. Sign a High overall talent in FA then draft in the same position ...trade for more future picks...Am I dreaming?
The problem with waiting for a team mid-season to call for Teddy Bridgewater is the fact that he was only on a 1 year rental to begin with. Chances are a team doesn't part ways with anything better than a 4th round pick; for a rental of only a couple of weeks (and no time whatsoever to break him into their playbook and Offensive game plan). How many NFL playoff contenders even lost their starting QB last year in which didn't have a capable backup, to begin with? Not many.
I disagree with you. You make it seem like size is the only determining factor. It's far from the only determining factor, and isn't even the most important factor. Teddy has seen more complex defenses, disguised coverages and exotic blitzes. Darnold hasn't. That is the most important factor. Even as sharp as Darnold has been, he's gonna struggle with some Ds. That's probably gonna cause him to hold the ball too long trying to read that D and decide what to do with the ball. At this point, Teddy reads the Ds better and quicker and gets the ball out quicker. He is also a smaller target, quicker and more elusive than Darnold. Granted if Teddy does get hit hard, he's probably more likely to get hurt than Darnold, but Darnold is a bigger target and more likely to get hit (imo) than Teddy.
