Even if you have one you need almost everything else in place. The teams that win SB with or without generational QB's usually have extremely well managed football operations and coaching staffs. It's nice to be in position to take a potentially good QB but the fact is we could have taken a couple of them last year at a much lower cost. That's a sign that this management group can't get it done even with the right pick. Value does matter.
hindsight is always 20/20 and mahomes hans't proven enough yet to annoint him a FQB. FWIW he graded out lower then allen
I'm not saying he wont. it's certainly possible especially if allen winds up in Cleveland. Not to mention mahomes has the benefit of andy ried as his coach and a very QB friendly system in KC. But it's way to early to call him a FQB though. he's only played 1 game in the NFL and didn't even play very well
so does every 1st round QB taken by that logic. even kizer has FQB potential. it's not necessarily how to develop, but how to build a system for them. Ried is one of the best
Yes, of course. But many said Mahomes was a 2nd or 3rd round prospect. Very few of us said he had FQB potential, and he seems to be on track for proving that. I'll say this: I would much rather be sitting with Mahomes right now, and a chance to get Barkley than having burned draft picks to have a CHANCE at someone as good (and TBF maybe better, Rosen) and no Barkley and no additional 2nd round picks.
again , same can be said of every prospect ever. there will always be skeptics, and people who over praise a guy.
Apparently he does. Andy Reid's draft history of QBs, other than taking the best QB in the draft, sucks though. Have seen lots of QBs who start off where you think they have it and with a little time it all ends. So just think we need more than a game
GB has Rodgers and doesn't need a QB today, can toe their time with Kizer. He did show some potential early but he did suck. Mahomes is less of a prospect than Allen, like it or not. He went into the draft a lot more bust potential than any of the top 4. No matter how much people are hyping him, unseen, today
When the team, coaching staff have put themselves in position to take on that responsibility. A veteran NFL QB doesn't need all the pieces around them that a rookie does. When the team has pieces around a rookie QB, it makes his adjustment to the NFL much easier. To put a rookie out there with what McCown had last year is suicide. Darnold, Rosen, mayfield and Allen would have never made it thru last season with our personnel. Rookies need a great running game, unless they are like Manning, Marino. The idea of fixing our team with a top 5 pick on a ???QB, just because we don't have a FQB is stupid. The only thing that will happen is we get Sanchez again. Of the 4 QB's, and again all 4 have major issues and question marks, Darnold or Rosen is it. They won't make it to 3. If we take Mayfield or Allen above Barkley, it will be a major mistake that we will feel for a long time. Bridgewater and McCown will lead us into the future and buy some time until the team is in a much better position to pick a QB. Bridgewater may be our guy for the next few years. He may be our FQB, who knows? He is also still developing. He is a much safer QB for our team than any of the 4 QB's in the draft. To say he isn't is retarded.
The team was in place, but more importantly the system was also. They sure as hell didn't draft their QB and build around him. Their QB's were their final piece. But I assume you believe to draft the QB and build around him? Maybe you can.... In Madden. You can name on one hand the teams that have tried. Most FQB's aren't drafted by a team with its roster upside down like ours is. Hell even the last time the JETS tried it, the team was loaded, then they got their FQB. Wentz was also a much better QB prospect than any in this draft. Goff may end up that way. Chances are he was a flash in the pan. Without Gurley, and the running game, Goff would not be in the conversation with Wentz. The Texans didn't build around Watson. I don't know where you get your ideas. It's not a guarantee we pick QB, and if he is there at 3, and the top 2 QB's are gone I guess you will have to get on the Barkley wagon. If we pick Mayfield or Allen, it will be a wasted draft for our team, considering what we have up. Considering we gave up what we did, I know management isn't so stupid that they will give up what they did and take Mayfield or Allen. They moved up to get one of the 3 best players in the draft. Period. Barkley is the best player in the draft. Period. Don't be so sure of your ideas of us taking Mayfield or Allen just because we need a FQB. Bridgewater is already here, is better than all 4 QB's in this draft at this point. Barkley will compliment every QB on our roster as a runner and a pass catcher. He might even help NCJETSFAN's favorite QB Hack. Just wait and see if we take Barkley over Allen and Mayfield..... I bet we do the smart thing and do so. Wait and see.
Built around him in a year? You must be joking. Foles could start for a lot of NFL teams, so it wasn't some kind of hoax. The team functioned before they drafted a FQB. Put Wentz on our team, I bet he doesn't have us in the Super Bowl in a year. What you are trying to say and prove isn't true. Only in Madden!
