Allen Vs Mayfield at the 3 pick - what the film shows

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If Rosen and Darnold are gone, who would you pick with the 3rd pick?

  1. Mayfield

    63.2%
  2. Allen

    36.8%
  1. SoylentGreen

    SoylentGreen Well-Known Member

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    Reminds me of when the Colts were debating whether they would take Peyton or Leaf.
     
  2. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    How does it eliminate Mayfield? You said yourself that he has shown that he can play at a high level (dominate at the college level) and that he's accurate. The only off-field issue was the public drunkenness charge and resisting arrest. So he's a little immature. He's still a young kid. He would be in the perfect place with the Jets with both McCown and Teddy to mentor him and help him mature and learn the finer points of playing in the NFL and playing QB.

    Allen on the other hand hasn't even proven that he can play at a high level on the collegiate level, and you want to trust using the #3 pick on him just because he's tall/big and has a cannon for an arm? Never mind that he isn't very accurate, has trouble reading Ds, and has huge bust potential.
     
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    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    You're wasting your time. He thinks he knows it all,and is so arrogant it isn't even funny, except it is.
     
  4. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Excellent find and post. I wonder what Mayfield's completion percentage would have been if the 8% of his passes that were dropped were actually caught. Yet some on here claim he isn't all that accurate. ROFLMAO!
     
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    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    He's one of those fake news scientists about climate change, isn't he? ;):p:cool:
     
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  6. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    Sadly this is true, but they didn't do it by liking mayfield, as i said before we are all guessing including GMs and scouts, but they did it by acting like children, plugging their ears and screaming lalalalala and name calling
     
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  7. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    http://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/josh-allen-vs-iowa-every-play-broken-down.90249/
     
  8. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Darnold has the highest upside IMO. He's got great pocket presence, a little raw in terms of fundamentals, but can be developed. He would be the best case scenario in terms of short term and long-term Jet plans. Darnold probably wouldn't start right away, so you can see what Teddy brings to the table.
     
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  9. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    fixed it for you
     
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  10. ..and doing the exact same thing AGAINST Allen is the same light. I guess we should all be wondering why Mayfield isn’t already signed by Cleveland to be the 1st pick or why Darnold/Rosen aren’t 3rd round prospects & Allen isn’t a potential UDFA?Mayfield is the be all end all

    Why even watch tape..just look at the stats & box scores.
     
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    thst the even funnier part. it's all allen is garbage and mayfield is perfect, instead of seeing both have their good and bad qualities.
     
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  12. Noam

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    I respect your postings and your work even if I disagree with your outcome. But I think your attacks on NCJetsfan changing his quote to say "I think I knows it all,and i'm so arrogant it isn't even funny, except it is. I also like to attack posters when i can't come up with a solid post to debate things" is wrong and does the board a disservice. We are all Jet fans, we may disagree but come April 26th we will have a new QB to root for regardless of who it is. This is something we should all be excited about not something that should make us attack each other.

    I don't mean to lecture you but I think your a better poster than that but I can understand the frustration waiting for the draft. It can't come soon enough. Sometimes these things bring out the worst in us but that does not mean we are bad people and can't get along.
     
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  13. GasedAndConfused

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    I mean, i'm not saying it's right, but he's been literally doing it to me for weeks now. Why not say anything to him for tasking shit about me for weeks instead of me finally giving him a small piece of it?

    you do realize the original quote was him saying that about me, and i jsut changed the "he" to "i" and added what he's been doing to me for weeks at the end
     
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    "Heehee"

    We can't draft this guy lol. But he can win you over personality wise, the kid has come a long way. If I am all in for Rosen, then I have to acknowledge his arrogance as well ... I am not going to classify Mayfield as a Total Bro like I did with Paxton Lynch, but this type of attitude, I've seen it before, sometimes it just takes MORE. Mark Sanchez had that same attitude in a way, but was more professional. I really didn't like when Mayfield threw footballs at those TCU players.
     
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    My apologies I did not know that was a direct quote just with that change. Maybe you two need to talk this out privately.
     
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  16. NCJetsfan

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    Sorry, but that's just a lame attitude imo. I respect you and your opinion, but you have obvious bias going on here against Mayfield, and are obviously in love with Allen's measurables and potential and blind to his limitations. I advise you to stock up on Pepto-Bismol, Maalox, Tagamet, Alka-Seltzer, or whatever you take for upset stomach, because I think the Jets are gonna shock the NFL and take Mayfield over Rosen and Allen.

    You're not the only one doing the hating that I see, but you're one of them. I don't hate Allen or any of the prospects. I think Mayfield is the best overall prospect for the reasons I outlined in my response to you last night. Mayfield definitely has things that he needs to learn, work on and improve, but then so do all the QB prospects. Aside from height, I just think that Mayfield has more going for him when one looks at all the overall factors, but I'll root just as hard for Allen, Rosen or Darnold if Mac takes one of them at #3.
     
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  17. GasedAndConfused

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    ball is in his court. I'm a reasonable guy.
     
  18. Catfish Billy

    Catfish Billy Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think the jets are really considering Mayfield. I know assume and you don’t know and all that shit, just my opinion.
     
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    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    Why would you think anyone who has anything negative to say about mayfield is biased against him? why would anyone in their right minds be biased against a college kid who could wind up a jet? Did you ever stop and think, maybe the "he who smelt it, dealt it" saying takes place here and you think everyone is being biased against him, because you love him and are blinded to his negatives?
     
  20. NCJetsfan

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    Darnold is bigger than Mayfield, but I don't think his arm is stronger. If he had only thrown at the Combine then we'd have a more definitive answer to that question, but he wussied out and didn't want to be viewed/evaluated next to the other QBs.
     

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