Kirk Cousins Mega Thread. Post all your thoughts under this thread.

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Your best option at QB if Mac cannot get Kirk Cousins?

Poll closed Mar 13, 2018.
  1. Sign Case Keenum

    6 vote(s)
    3.2%
  2. Sign Teddy Bridgewater

    22 vote(s)
    11.7%
  3. Sign Sam Bradford

    5 vote(s)
    2.7%
  4. Sign Drew Brees

    4 vote(s)
    2.1%
  5. Trade for Alex Smith

    4 vote(s)
    2.1%
  6. Trade for Nick Foles

    7 vote(s)
    3.7%
  7. Trade for Browns No. 1 Overall Pick: Draft Sam Darnold

    18 vote(s)
    9.6%
  8. Trade for Browns No. 1 Overall Pick: Draft Josh Rosen

    27 vote(s)
    14.4%
  9. Stay at 6 and draft a QB: Post Your Choice

    72 vote(s)
    38.3%
  10. Trade up for Colts 3rd or Browns 4th Overall Pick and draft a QB: Post Your Choice

    23 vote(s)
    12.2%
  1. Rivers23

    Rivers23 Active Member

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    49ers probably overpaid. I don't know about their roster, but is there enough money left for a quality o-line, for example? No point in having a great QB when he gets run over in week 3 by a blitz and misses the rest of the season.
    Also, guys, things that are good cost money. We can't get Cousins for a pack of peanuts. Some people think Cousins is worth about a pack of peanuts but hey. I personally think he's worth the money.
     
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  2. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    He wants wr money too
     
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    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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  4. 6-10 once again

    6-10 once again Well-Known Member

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    Ummm no that would be better then any of cousins years, I said 30 plus touchdowns which cousins has never accomplished, and less then 13 ints is pretty much right at cousins average as a starter.... cousins went 27 tds 13 ints last year which my prediction eclipses

    So you would have been correct if you had said "Wow your hopeful prediction for Jimmy G is better then cousins best year"
     
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  5. nicg4360

    nicg4360 Well-Known Member

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    He was exaggerating because he doesn't want to come here.
     
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    6-10 once again Well-Known Member

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  7. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The 49ers just became the second team in NFL history to slam their own Super Bowl window shut while re-signing a promising QB. Lions were the first with Stafford.

    No QB has won a SB in the post 2011 new CBA era while counting more than 12.2% against his teams salary cap for the year. That was Peyton Manning in 2015.
     
  8. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    As I posted in another thread, I can foresee where either the role of the QB is going to be reduced in NFL offenses, or the NFL is going to learn how to adopt to college-type offenses and QBs so they can more easily fill the position, and thus reduce the cost of them.
     
  9. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    when did jimmy g drag the niners to a win?

    his last game with his 84 QBR and 2 INTs that they won easily thanks to 171 rushing yards on 30 carries and 2 TDs while facing a JV rams team resting for the playoffs the run game pounded a JV squad

    the one before that where he did play solid with 2 TDs to 1 INT but had less then 250 yards passing. the run game put up 131 yards and 3 TDs. the run game won them

    before that? they won a close one by 2 point in a game where jimmy had 1 TD. they had to kick 6 FGs becuase jimmy G couldn't get it in the end zone. the kicker won them that game

    before that? 1 TD and 4 Fgs kicked and also 1 INT. that's a total of 10 FGs i a 2 game span becuase jimmy was bad in the red zone

    and his 1st game? they squeaked out a 1 point win against the lowly bears thanks to 5 FGs

    His total stats for those 5 games 7 TDs, 5 INTs, total over a season 22.4TDs, 16INTs,

    Their kicker? 18/18 in those 5 games which over 16 games would be 57.6 FGM. the NFL record is 44. only twice did kickers break the 40 mark. that's how many FGs gould attempted because jimmy g was bad in the red zone. clearly you didn't watch him to see that
     
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  10. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    I think, more likely, is the nfl adopts the nba’s model and starts giving an exemption or 2 that allows teams to pay qbs with no repercussions to the cap
     
  11. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    to be fair if you count total TDs he has 94 over the past 3 years which averages out to 31.3 per season. total INTs 36 so averages 12 a year. so essentially cousins average over the past 3 years is 31.3TDs and 12INTs so better then your "ideal jimmy g season"

    How much you want to be jimmy doens't do that? I'll make an avatar bet. If he doens't i get to pick your avatar for all the offseason. If he manages to pull it off, you can pick mine :)
     
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  12. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    it's kind of a pointless stats because Brady has won 3 of those years and is taking less then he's worth. had brady been making what he should be that stat wouldn't exist. on top of that eli won 2 and got a record setting deal at the time. just by the time he won the cap blew up making his % seem smaller then it was when he first signed
     
  13. FlaJet

    FlaJet Well-Known Member

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    Can our Jets afford not to sign Cousins? With our FO and HC azz in a sling they will go all in to sign him. I hope we do but I am selfish as I'm soon to be 76 and desperately want to see us win a SB before I go. He is our best chance. If we go the other route my team will always be the Jets but my heart won't be in the rebuilding scheme.
     
  14. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    You might be right, as a first step in trying to reign in the cost, but I still think eventually the owners will look to find a way to cut back on paying one player so much of their team's payroll, cap or no cap.
     
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    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    I do not want to pay Cousins 28 million per season. Hopefully Mac doesn't either.
     
  16. 6-10 once again

    6-10 once again Well-Known Member

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    To be fairer Kirk cousins has 81 passing touchdowns over the last 3 years which averages to 27, but sure if you want to throw rushing Tds in then put Jimmy down for 35 plus touchdowns. Sure I respect your posts despite disagreeing sometimes so I'll make that bet anyday my friend, you are on!
     
  17. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    sounds like a bet :)
     
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  18. seanofthedead

    seanofthedead Well-Known Member

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    Not going to pretend to know anything about Football F.O. Politics but how on Earth can you pay an above average FA QB more for 2 years then you might get a Franchise QB for 5 years through the draft? There has to be a point where these inflated numbers stop right? Seems like the Eagles knew what they were doing....
     
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    Sam Hammer Well-Known Member

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    Watch the Jets turn around and offer him a 5 year, $100m deal. That would have disaster written all over it.
     
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  20. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    If Brady was making what he was worth it would be hard to maintain Gronk and go get Cooks and keep the OL happy, etc.

    Seriously, the $10M+ that Brady is under market lets the Pats maintain quality depth in a way that a championship caliber team should not be able to do over time. Their drafting isn't *that* good. They've filled a lot of holes over the years with Wes Welker, Danny Amendola, Brandon Cooks, etc.

    Hell, they signed Darrelle Revis for $12M for one season to help win a Super Bowl. No way they can do that if Brady is making $23M a year.
     

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