If Kirk Cousins signs with the Jets

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Mario, Jan 31, 2018.

  1. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2004
    Messages:
    36,670
    Likes Received:
    14,472
    I think he's going where the money and chances to win stack up the best. If it was just about the money he'd have taken the Skins offer last year of $23M a year including $53 million in guarantees and $72M guaranteed for injury.

    Cousins is likely to want to be in a place that has a good chance to win and that extends a deal in that range. When he signs there the contract will be a major slap in the face for the Skins, which is probably also part of his agenda at this point.
     
  2. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2008
    Messages:
    7,430
    Likes Received:
    2,809
    Are you kidding me? The Denver broncos went to the playoffs on Brock. Manning was playing like shit. If it weren't for Brock, they might not have even made the playoffs. He played very we that season and turned it into a huge payday. People on this very board wanted glennon for years. So they weren't some no name guys. They were coveted around th NFL. Its pretty stupid that you dont know that.

    Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
     
  3. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    15,767
    Likes Received:
    20,789
    You’re comparing a few games of a guy’s career to multiple years of another’s. That is, you guessed it, dumb.
     
    All Gas No Shake and JetBlue like this.
  4. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2004
    Messages:
    11,669
    Likes Received:
    5,892
    Not an avoidance at all. You keep mentioning other people being lazy when you have been the one whose actions are lazy by definition.

    And the topic of our debate is your incomplete statistical analysis and conclusions. You’ve done nothing but deflect from that very point by simply stating how smart you are. Junc would be proud, his tradition carries on.

    Next time you are able to take several statistical factors and draw a reasonable conclusion from them will be your first.
     
  5. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2008
    Messages:
    7,430
    Likes Received:
    2,809
    Im not the type to blindly bash a player. I did my research. I watched tape looked at stats, compared stats to games. I dont like what i see. Very inconsistent but it seems more average and bad than good. Just when it looks good, it looks spectacular, so people forget about the bad decisions on the previous 3 drives that made him have to lead that winning drive in the first place.

    Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
     
  6. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2008
    Messages:
    7,430
    Likes Received:
    2,809
    Yup nice try.

    Game over, insert another quarter.

    Winners dont do drugs.

    Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
     
  7. TonyFtLaud

    TonyFtLaud Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2016
    Messages:
    4,950
    Likes Received:
    4,441
    Maybe I should have been more clear, Starting QBs not average players. The 4.4 takes into account back ups, practice squad and UDFAs, guys who never make a roster or start a game.
     
  8. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2008
    Messages:
    7,430
    Likes Received:
    2,809
    Ok buddy, still havent see you oppose my facts.

    Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
     
  9. playtowinthegame

    playtowinthegame Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2016
    Messages:
    2,141
    Likes Received:
    1,951
    Cousins Talk is so popular it could be a new forum during free agency. The horse has been beaten to death, more so than Cousins has been beaten on Monday and Thursday night football. Message board gangs are forming over quarterback. You got the Cousins Crazies, the Chosen Rosens, Darnold Dabers, the Baker Bruts, and last but not least you have the Lamar Locos. Debates can go from 0 to a 100 quickly. People are getting emotional. Some are even blocking people. Crazy times indeed. I'm part of the Chosen Rosens, but I will barbecue with the Darnold Dabers.
     
    Patriot and zace like this.
  10. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2008
    Messages:
    7,430
    Likes Received:
    2,809
    That applies to them as well. Its still not 37, but ill bite. We agree it wont be 1 and done season wise. He will probably play at least 3 years or so, which would be the bulk of the contract.

    Still, its a knee jerk fan reaction that should be avoided. We should stay the course and draft a guy. We have too many holes to tie that kinda money up in a guy that isnt gonna lead us to the super bowl.

    Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
     
  11. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    15,767
    Likes Received:
    20,789
    That was a fact. Comparing games to years is dumb. 100% factual. Not just when talking football, just life in general.
     
  12. JDeacon

    JDeacon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2010
    Messages:
    515
    Likes Received:
    460
    Do any of you remember what it was like going into gameday with confidence that your team had as good of a chance to win against any opponent and not if some miracle occurred i.e. punt blocked, int return for td etc?? We have been so horrible at qb for such a long time we have become self destructive.

    We are getting rather brownish around here with our long running tradition of horrible qb's. Lets take a look at this inspiring group:

    Josh McCown Ryan Fitzpatrick, Geno Smith, Bryce Petty, Michael Vick, Mark Sanchez, Greg McElroy, Kellen Clemens... Brett Farve and god forbid we mention Hack as we wasted a 2nd round pick on that bum who hasn't even taken a sack.

    Its been 10!!! years since we have had a "competent" qb. Sorry Sanchez lovers, I will admit he sparked a few time but he was never consistent qb. Everyone else has been beyond horrible and their statistics show it.

    I want to enjoy football again, Cousins gives us the best chance to be competitive and produce enjoyable football for our fan base. Will we ever get the super bowl with him? Who knows, great qb's barely make the super bowl twice in their careers, some never sniff the holy land. Cousins is good enough to build a team around and give you a realistic chance of making the playoffs each and every year. We have to jump on this.
     
  13. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2008
    Messages:
    7,430
    Likes Received:
    2,809
    Guess im a chosen rosen too. Im secretly down with bakers bruts too.

    Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
     
    playtowinthegame likes this.
  14. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2008
    Messages:
    7,430
    Likes Received:
    2,809
    Put up or shut up. Support your stance, or sit down. Dont waste my time or yours.

    Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
     
  15. nicg4360

    nicg4360 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2016
    Messages:
    679
    Likes Received:
    507
    Wow tense crowd...regardless of stats he is currently the BEST option of all free agent QBs out there. Bar None. There is also the fact before Fitz came on board Mac inquired about a trade for Cousins so the Jets have already have shown interest in him albeit 2-3 years ago. With that said he has only improved. I think it all depends on what the Jets FO wants out of next year. Do they want to go with a rookie and bridge vet for a year or two before the rookie can take over or do we want to put wins on the table immediately. Remember this team all out blows at development of QBs. With cousins he's there already.
    I think it's alot of money hell yea. But I think the Jets will take a run at him. Regardless of what the people on this forum think.
     
  16. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    15,767
    Likes Received:
    20,789
    Case Keenum played Nick Foles in the NFC champ game and we have people on this site whining that Cousins wouldn’t get us to the super bowl.
     
    Skicats and BacktoQueens like this.
  17. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    15,767
    Likes Received:
    20,789
    How do you support something that’s just common sense? I think it’s just a generally understood thing among most people. You don’t compare 8 games to 3 years. That’s dumb.
     
  18. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2008
    Messages:
    7,430
    Likes Received:
    2,809
    The redskins weren't confident going into gameday with cousin.

    When you are 7-9, it’s hard to say he was outstanding~jay gruden 2018

    Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
     
  19. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2008
    Messages:
    7,430
    Likes Received:
    2,809
    I see you have the mentality of a 12 yr old. So you dont have anything valid to add?

    Game over

    Insert another quarter

    Winners dont do drugs

    Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
     
  20. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2008
    Messages:
    7,430
    Likes Received:
    2,809
    Yeah those teams are stacked. Our defense isnt nearly as good as either of those teams and our supooring cast on offense doesnt compare.

    Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
     

Share This Page