I was referring to winning SB with QB's over 30. Warner didn't win a SB with the Cardinals. I'm just not sold on Cousins for a number of reasons. His coach, team and franchise is historically better than the Jets. No way will their owner let him go without franchising him and/or franchising him but not signing him but trading him. So then they will get a ton of draft picks (Buffalo/Cleveland) both have way more ammo than any team in the league to make that happened.
First, nothing Daniel Snyder has done is better than the jets or almost any team not named the browns. I’m not really sold on jay gruden either and history has nothing to do with any of it anyway. I’m not sure the skins can even risk tagging him and tying up 34 mil of cap space even for a short time but even if they did cousins still would have to agree to a deal with the team he is getting traded to.so,in that case a team will still need picks and cap space and desirable to cousins. Skins are not holding aces in this game. As for being sold on cousins, he is having a pro bowl year with nothing around him.22 different line combinations this year, down to their 3rd back,WRs have been disappointing his best weapon a tight end has played 6 games this year and he is top 10 in a lot of categories. We are a play off team with him today.
Highly risky doing that. No guarantees either way signing a QB or drafting one and to throw everything the Jets have at both scenarios is dangerous. Ask yourself this have the Jets ever had success at doing something like that? Using your New England analogy would they do that? No they find role players and draft both sides of the football not just defense like the Jets. But their biggest talent is developing and coaching up whoever is on their roster. Something the Jets are failing at in spades.
We are not a playoff team with our sieve defense. You know the one that blows games every week. All the things you loved about the Redskins Snyder, Gruden has nothing to do with it.
mccown has cost us more games than the d. and gruden and snyder are what the skins are now and the only thing that matters. nothing in the past will influence what happens with cousins, the skins, or the jets. fans are the only ones who dwell on past
If that is the case Cousins goes nowhere. See they have an owner that is like Steinbrenner was. He will get what is needed to try and win and money isn't an issue. The Jets ower is like the Mets Wilpons, could careless and proves it by going to England instead of overseeing his billion dollar sports team. So it might be really pointless to even be discussing Cousins to the Jets.
C'mon man. What's more important, the Jets or being part of the next military invasion with Britain for the win? Woody paid good money for that also.
Maybe, maybe not one thing he does have at his disposale is a franchise tag. He can always negoatiate a more cap friendly salary with Cousins, or front load it, string it out longer or trade him. All of which are not available to the Jets in dealing with Cousins. So pipe dream smash, crushed and flushed. Move along nothing to see here anymore. The horse is beat and dead and hanging on a bed post like the Godfather movie.
again, i don't believe they can tag him and have that 34 mil cap hit hang around and keep them from conducting any other moves. and the horsehead was under the cover, not hanging from a bed post. accuracy is important
Dude. I think you're pickin' your toes in Poughkeepsie, like in the French Connection. Washington has mucho problemos.
The French Connection is feral and raw on the streets and insists on nothing. It's the streets and it is what it is. Good book too
Coaching is #1 on my list when it comes to this team ... the ability to get the most out of a player is not something I feel Bowles excels at . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
You must not have read Colorado's post - packaging picks for a QB is by no means mortgaging the future. History shows most of those picks never pan out. Here it is again: Here are a couple of articles that shed some light on how successful players are based on where they're taken, as well as evidence that most draft picks don't make it. From this article: https://www.forbes.com/sites/prishe...w-contingent-is-success-to-draft-position/2/# Of the 595 players designated as "starters" in the 2014 season, almost a third were drafted in the 1st round. Another third were taken in rounds 2 &3. So those who say "You can find great talent in the later rounds" are not supported by this statistic = 60% of starters are taken in rounds 1-3, with HALF of those coming in round 1. Also, 1st rounders played a higher percentage (67%) of games than any other round, while those drafted in rounds 4-7+ only played 7% of the possible games. And finally, the average length of career for all players in 3.3 years From this article: https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015...e-statistics-tell-us-about-the-draft-by-round It studied drafts from 2005-14, and out of 2465 players drafted, only 629 became starters for at least half their career. With regards to QBs specifically: Of the 122 QBs drafted in the last 10 years only 25 have been starters for at least half of their career. The first round gives you a 63% chance of finding a starter. The second round gives you a 27% chance, the third a 17% chance, then it really plummets from there with 8% in the fourth and 6% in the 7th. In the last 10 years, 38 QBs have been drafted in the 5th and 6th rounds and not one has become a starter. From this article: https://www.dailynorseman.com/2017/4/12/15274148/most-nfl-draft-picks-are-busts here is how all draft picks over the past 20 years (not including last year) have fared overall: 16.7% Didn’t Play for the Team that Drafted Them. 37% Were Considered “Useless” 15.3% Were Considered “Poor” 10.5% Were Considered “Average” 12.3% - Were Considered “Good” 6.9% Were Considered “Great” From the above, only 20% of all draft picks really make an impact. So if you have 5 picks, only one is likely to make an impact, and that pick is likely to be a first rounder. Even then, his career may not last more than 3-4 years. After digesting all of this, what I conclude is that most draft picks fail, and so aren't really all that valuable, with the exception of the first round. And even when a player succeeds, his impact is usually only felt for 3 years or so, thus the "future" isn't really a long period of time. WHile "building through the draft" is considered "smart", if you only average getting one or even two players per year, it would take 10-12 years to build completely from the draft, so what this really means is that you have to use FAs and trades to build the majority of your roster. This again lessens the values of draft picks, particularly past the first round. So on the basis of all this, I would say trading away almost all your picks is worth it for the right QB.
Drees Brees went to NO after 5 seasons with San Diego, and went on to win a Super Bowl with them at age 31.. He's also been tremendous ever since, even now at 38. Cousins will turn 30 some time next season. That's not old for a QB at all. It's prime.
I left him out because he was under 30 when he left San Diego. The discussion was QB that left teams on the other side of 30 and went to a SB. Warner was UDFA so he was different. Gannon, Manning were the ones who actually switched teams and won a SB after 30. This is in the free agency era.
Well Cousins will still be 29 when he leaves Washington, so he wouldn't fit your criteria either I think Jim Plunkett is another name that would qualify tho.. In all seriousness, there aren't that many QB's on your list, because most teams will not let good QB's leave. It is not an age thing, so much as an opportunity thing. Fortunately for us, Washington is not most teams .
