I now understand why The Jets signed McCown to be the placeholder QB on a rebuilding team. He is journeyman QB who has leadership skills greater than his physical skills. McCown is a professional QB who is capable of winning when the team is firing on all cylinders. He is not going to carry the team on his back when they are playing bad, but he is going to give you a consistently average performance which at least gives the team a chance to win. It's not saying much, but he does give the team the best chance to win games as compared to Petty or Hack. When we signed McCown, people questioned his ability to mentor the young players. I have seen nothing about his play and professionalism that would preclude him from being a good mentor. The best coaches/mentors are often the blue collar guys who had to rely on hustle, and not skill. I see coaching in Josh McCown's future, and maybe it might even be with the Jets.
Why do you say this compared to Petty (I fully agree regards Hack)? Maybe Petty actually gives them a better chance. It sure would be nice to see that theory tested.
We have seen Petty play with the first team. I haven't seen anything from him that would make him a starting QB. My guess is that the guys watching him practice see things better than me. Petty did well in preseason against 3rd teamers. He has more potential for a big stat game than McCown, but he also has the potential to throw up a big goose egg. I'm not opposed at all playing Petty or even Hack. I'd actually prefer to see what they could do, but we won't see them until McCown is hurt, or we are clearly not going to make the playoffs.
I hear what you're saying, and that's obviously the reality, but IMO they need to throw Petty in there and really see what he can do. How long did they keep the training wheels on Watson - or Kizer for that matter? I'm not saying they should tank, or play half-assed, but doing everything to win a few games that won't get them to the SB this year, but WILL cost them prime draft position, while at the same time keep from finding out for certain whether Petty can play is dumb, and gives me fresh reminder of why I hate this team sometimes.
AORN, He is the 3rd Most Efficient QB in the NFL There are 12 QB's with more INT's Than McCown IMO, that is very important when you are trying to win games. The fact that he's been sacked 12 times is him trying to go downfield/holding the ball longer/Trying to make a play He has to get rid of it tho when it knocks you oo fg range. I will say this, He looks far better than Fitz with Less. Running game, Solid D and an Efficient QB can do wonders in the NFL
McCown has been fantastic for the young players on the roster. Even yesterday with that boneheaded lateral and then Powell falling down with the INT, he kept the team together. Have to respect that. He is literally the OPPOSITE of his Week 3 opponent: Jay Cutler. A class act who cares so much for his team, just doesn't really have much talent. He has been able to utilize Anderson back to back weeks too. Something Fitz couldn't do due to lack of arm strength. I like Josh. I get the fans wanting to see Petty/Hack though too. They will play soon enough. Doubt McCown can continue to stay healthy. Glad he has so far though. Good for him.
We are 2/3 through the easiest 3 game portion of the Jets schedule. Aside from the Browns game next week the only other game the Jets realistically have a shot at winning is the Miami game. Yes anything can happen in the NFL with injuries etc. but this is still looking like a 3-4 win team. If they surprise and win 6-7 to fall out of the QB draft sweepstakes then move to plan B.. look to pick up Brees, Alex Smith etc. while filling in other pieces then package picks for a QB when the time is right. If they hold to form and win 3-4 they'll draft a QB in 2018. I'd rather see what Petty can be so there aren't any questions going into the off-season but for now at least a mediocre McCown doesn't make me want to pull the hair from my head like it did last year with shitzpatick or Geno before him. Being happy with mediocrity is what it's become to be a Jets fan lately.
They don't have a realistic chance of beating the (0-4) Chargers at home on Christmas Eve? I get your point though and agree. I think they will likely go (3-9) the rest of the way for a (5-11) record but you never know.
McGown? Dude is earning his paycheck and doing what mangmt. Is asking I saw him throw a beautiful pass on Sunday but that's his highlight so far Together with Petty and Hack they are listed as QBs but their ship has sailed imo for being this team's future Go ahead and play Petty/Hack for the tank job ..cause we will lose and personally I am okies with that In reality Bowles wants his job and he wants wins so It's Josh M going forward
IDK.. I get your point but the Chargers have a history of slow starts followed by strong finishes. They've finally gotten Tyrell Williams involved last week and paired with Keenan Allen that's one heck of a 1-2 punch. 3 of their 4 losses were really close games. SD has the talent but they're in the wrong division to compete for a playoff spot. To me their issues are Gates is shot, Henry hasn't stepped up and Gordon hasn't done much. Once they fix them they'll be fine. Time will tell. This game could be the difference between a franchise QB pick and going after Brees, Alex Smith, Cousins etc.
If this actually happened it would be the most improbable Super Bowl appearance in the history of the NFL. Even the 1969 Mets weren't as improbable as this. They won 73 the year before and were on the upswing. The closest comparison would be the 1991 Minnesota North Stars making the Stanley Cup Finals after finishing 16th out of 21 teams.
As a fan i can admit when I'm wrong. I was so against a veteran such as McCown getting any reps or playing time. Fitzpatrick left a bad taste in my mouth and I've been hell bent on seeing either Petty and especially Hackenberg. But i was wrong. I'm really starting to like McCown starting as a 1 year rental. Our offense looks like a real NFL offense with McCown under center. He's calm & composed at the line of scrimmage. It's good for the future of our younger talents to gain experience & exposure within a real NFL offense. McCown has been nothing but good for players such as Powell, Elijah, Robby Anderson, ArDarius Stewart, Jermaine Kearse and Seferian-Jenkins. With either of Petty or Hackenberg quarterbacking I'm not sure we'd be saying the same and we might've seen an offense with inexperience running around like chickens with their heads cut off; which eventually would take it's toll on and break down our defense. I was wrong. A veteran in McCown who doesn't have arm limitations as Fitzpatrick did was the best man for this very young 2017 Jets team. Why throw out Petty or Hack into a completely new offensive system... they can continue to develop from the outside looking in because as of right now the Jets appear to have a new ground game duo featuring Powell & Elijah as a 1-2 punch, WR's & a TE who can make plays, a young & fast defense along with a focused veteran QB. This team is hungry, plays with fire and has an underdog mentality. And as a fan I'm personally enjoying it. They're responding to Bowles no smiles/no cries type of personality too.
Excellent post. I've been shocked at the way McCown has played. He has displayed a calm presence in the pocket, an ability to find the open receiver given the defensive alignment, a strong arm (much better than Fitz), and an ability to throw the deep ball. Not a believer in this mentor crap. If Petty or Hack had what it takes, they'd be out there by now, especially Petty. I think the team has benefited immensely from Kearse, a guy defenses have to pay attention to. McCown is not perfect by any stretch but for a QB without a lot of big weapons he seems to know how to play the position..
I don't really give a crap if my crotchety 80 year old neighbor is out there. Just get me some W's. But that neighbor, I could always turn on him. Unless McCown gets hurt or really starts choking, I vote for keeping Petty in the stable for the time being. He'll get his chance to fail. The Cleveland game, if that isn't a trap game, I don't know what is. Then the Jets will turtle and get completely annihilated by the Cheats. I'm so full of rainbows and pastelly colored jellybeans this morning. In fact, my optimism just blinded me when I looked in the mirror.
Everyone including myself wanted to develop either Hackenberg or Petty but now I've realized the importance of developing players such as Kearse, Robby, Seferian-Jenkins, ArDarius & McGuire. The development of these kids are important for our future & i (now) feel the best chances they have to develop by making plays is with a veteran at the QB position. Powell will gain a lot more experience this year as well as Enunwa returning next year. Allow these players to play with a veteran while our two younger QB's develop from the outside looking in. Then next year maybe, just maybe we'll trot one of them out there or even sign a free agent/draft a QB prospect nonetheless 2018's QB should have a much higher chance of showing signs due to this current offense developing under a veteran QB. Just my thoughts moving forward.
I definitely understand it now. While I'd like to also what Petty and Hack can do in a real game, there are plenty other players on offense that need evaluating. The offensive line looked like absolute garbage in front of Hack and Petty. They've looked pretty damn good in front of McCown. Having a QB that can recognize when blitz's are coming from is very helpful. Now if Hack and Petty come in to play, and the OL is trash, I am more inclined to place more blame on QBs.
