Week 4 Studs and Duds

I think that Bowles may have hired a better supporting cast e.g. Morton, Green and this is making a difference vs his being a dumbass

The team overall performance is about average where I for one thought it would be well below

I am secretly hoping for some glorious losses where we perform off the scale but still manage to whiff our way to a top 3 pick in the draft

Soon the hardest part of sched is upcoming and separating the men from the boys imo

 

While I'm not really saying he's "good" my sense so far is that I've not given McCown enough credit. Just on little things, leadership, and honestly he throws a better ball than I thought he could. I think he's at least solidly mediocre. I'm kind of a Petty fan but I'm now more inclined to think McCown really is better right here and now which I was severely questioning this preseason.

I watched that play where he threw it hard into the back of the RB and it got taken back for a TD though.... I just don't understand what happened there. That looked bad news bears-esque and they are damn lucky it didn't cost them the game IMHO. I think that alone is enough to get you onto the "dud" list for the week

 

Edwards can also be in the dud section. He had a mixed game. McCown was not a dud. He made one huge mistake, and was a dropped INT away from making a second one. The INT on Powell's slip is not his fault. Otherwise, he played a solid game.

 

He's not good, that 40 yarder out of the end zone almost cost us the game, had 2- 32 yd punts

 

He is inconsistent, which can be worse than bad. It prevents you from releasing him when he occasionally booms one.

 

He is Ryan Quigley

 

I have always wondered why none of these self proclaimed experts have never had any job in the NFL including picking up the players wet towels

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I feel like McCown has to be held accountable for the high number of sacks. The line protected well, most of those were coverage sacks where he should have just thrown the ball away. Not going to kill him for it (because we won, of course) but his pocket awareness was lacking yesterday.

 

It's an Internet forum. Bashing the forum isn't good for your very first post.

 

I agree with most of your comments. I just have a few of my own.

Studs
Powell - Definitely should be starting. Forté doesn't have the ability to score from anywhere on the field, and the last I saw was barely averaging 3 ypc, if that.

McGuire does look a gem, and he should be backing up Powell with Forté dead last on the depth chart.

Catanzaro did hit the game winner, but missing after the Jets successfully executed the fake punt, could have not only caused a big momentum shift, but could have cost the Jets the game. If he had made that kick, the game never goes to OT.

Coaching Staff - I'm still in a total state of shock that the Jets even tried a play like the fake punt, much less successfully completed it. I'm used to plays like that never being run and the few times they are, blowing up in the Jets faces and the Jets look like a laughingstock. Kudos to Bowles for doing that. It's only the last two games, but he does seem to have learned and to be doing a lot better. I don't know if Morton is making him look better, or if Bowles talked with someone who pointed out his flaws or what, but let's hope it continues. I'll wait and see how the team plays against the better teams on our schedule, if/when Bowles plays Petty and/or Hack, Stewart and Hansen, but I could change my mind about firing Bowles. I'm shocked to hear myself say that.

ROFLMAO at Adams playing like a rabbit on crack. Too funny!

Duds
McCown only had 2 TOs, but he fumbled 3 times! He could have easily have had 4, and that could have cost us the game. That is Geno-esque.

As far as the pass rush goes, I don't know what "high picks" you're referring to, but aside from Williams and Mo, no high picks have been invested in any defensive position that could rush the passer, and both Mo and Williams are battling injuries.

As far as comparing our record to that of the Pats and other teams, they've played much tougher opponents than we have. Let's not get carried away. Let's see what our final record is and how the teams we beat fare this season, before trying to draw too many conclusions.

 

Why don't you just tag me next time?

I didn't say he sucked. I said he's not very smooth as a receiver. Which is true. He gets to his spot and can catch the ball, which he did.

Maybe he's a little better than I gave him credit for.

 

Did you see the game? It didn't even look like a designed fake punt as much as it was the punter being aware of seeing a gunner uncovered. I would imagine that this is built into the game plan if they ever see a gunner uncovered. So I guess you can credit Bowles for having it in the gameplan.

Mo and Leonard Williams account for 50% of the defensive line, 75% when we are in the 3-4. Leonard Williams had some pressures and used some good pass rushing moves to beat his mad and put pressure on the passer. Wilkerson remains a no show.

I'm a bit disappointed in Leonard Williams. He now has 1 sack (0.5 vs. Colts/49ers in week 13/14 last year) in his last 13 games. Pressures are not enough. He needs to start finishing the deal, especially if he's going to want a big contract. He's still a good player but he's not yet been the GREAT player we all expected him to be.

It just figures that the supposed best player in the draft falls to us and becomes nothing more than a glorified run stuffer. And we're not even stuffing the run all too well, but I place that on the linebackers more than the line.


Forte was OK against the Dolphins, but I do tend to agree with you. Time to move on from him completely. Send him to the Packers (where he originally was going to go) or a 'contender' for a 7th round pick. McGuire and Powell proved that they can more than hold the fort.

 

It's OK if it was. I have no problem owning up to my mistakes. He's a much more capable pass catching than I thought he was.