There's hope yet...

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  1. grkmanga31

    grkmanga31 Well-Known Member

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    I think it ultimately depends on whether he is willing to accept that he was a bad HC last season and honestly work on being better. It also has to do with how he handles the QB situation as well.
     
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  2. PulseJet

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    If the Jets "jettison" the malcontents, then maybe Bowles has a chance.
     
  3. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Hey Big Andy!

    Hows about we do a little switcharoonie and have YOU come over at the Jets to be our HC

    And send Mr Intelligent Bowles over to KC?? Considering your giving TB such a ringing endorsement no one in Missouri will care
     
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  4. JCLA

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    Disagree. It is not the coaches responsibility to get a person to go do a job they are paid millions to do. If they can't show up for that then it's that own persons personal problem.

    I only played collegiate athletically and I never needed a coach to give me some rousing speech to get me to compete.
     
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  5. TonyFtLaud

    TonyFtLaud Well-Known Member

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    It may not be the coaches responsibility to get a player to do the job they are paid millions to do, but it is the coaches responsibility to bench, cut, replace that player if he fails to perform.
    As a collegiate athlete , I'm sure your coach would have yanked your scholarship and put you out of school with out blinking an eye if you failed to perform. At the very least cut you if not on scholarship.
    I own a small business with 12 employees. It's not my job to make sure they show up to work, but if they don't, I will simply replace them.
    Bowles has many issues as far as his coaching goes but his inability to make the tough decision regarding discipline and holding players accountable is his biggest shortcoming and will likely be the reason for his demise. I can see him gaining the respect of the locker room unless the roster is purged of the vets and he lays down the law at the start of the season. I don't see him having the fortitude to do what needs to be done going forward.
     
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  6. No Fly Zone

    No Fly Zone Well-Known Member

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    The next time Bowles makes an in-game or half-time adjustment it will be his first. That's not the type of coach that should be praised for being smart. Actions speak louder than words, his actions so far highlight that he is NOT head coach material. Maybe he should live in a hyperbaric chamber until training camp starts to get some oxygen into his brain so he can take down the vacancy sign.
     
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  7. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    I posted this video link solely because it was odd to me.

    Todd Bowles gets mucho respect from many in the coaching community.

    We'd be a lot better off if his players felt the same.

    I don't think Bowles is a "bad" coach...I just wish he'd loosen up and let it flow.

    Coughlin pivoted to great effect...so should Todd.
     
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  8. Greenday4537

    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    Has he? How are Petty and Hackenberg doing? Has Robbie Anderson figured out to run a route other than a Go route? Pryor? Lee? Mauldin?
     
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  9. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    If you worked for the Jets and had to find a way to put a positive spin on things for the fans all the time, would you be stoned out of your head all the time? ;) I probably would be.
     
  10. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Well, I think that depends upon a couple of things. One, if what I read about the players really loving Bowles is true and their being willing to do about anything for him. Two, how the team plays in its wins and losses. Did they show up each and every week prepared to play? Did they stop beating themselves with mental errors, sloppy play, and dumb penalties? Did they fight hard each and every week? Did Bowles make adjustments? Did he manage the clock and the game well? If the answers to those questions are all or mostly "yes," then I agree that he could be given another year. If the answer is mostly "no," then I think he's a definite goner.
     
  11. SOJAZ

    SOJAZ Well-Known Member

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    Disagree, it is his responsibility to get his players ready, to hold them accountable and if not bench them or cut them. See BB if you think I am wrong and how he handles the Pats and what is his record with and w/o TB?
     
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    SOJAZ Well-Known Member

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    That you... no ability to coach up at all.
     
  13. Br4d

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    The Jets were a good second half team in 2015. 7-9 at the half and 10-6 overall.
     
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    I'm glad someone brought this up. Iirc most people were saying how pleasant it was to have a HC who was capable of halftime adjustments for most of his first year.
     
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    Huh?
     
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    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    He did seem to be making half time adjustments in 2015. He regressed horribly in that regard last year, which is mind boggling to me. When you know how to do something, why would you stop doing it?
     
  17. JCLA

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    Look at fitz second half stats, that's how you regress.
     
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  18. NCJetsfan

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    Fitz' play has nothing to do with defensive adjustments.
     
  19. JCLA

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    I don't really think his adjustments were any different than last year. We just didn't put up points in the second half
     
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    Second half production was only seven points below first half but points allowed actually went down by 59 points in the second half. Of course some of that may be explained by conservative opponents' play calling when they already led by two touchdowns or more at the half.
     

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