when will people realize it's a QBs league. If Hackenburg sucks...then draft another QB this year. And again. And again. Until we find one. And I'm sure they know well enough if he's got an NFL future.
to be fair the squeelers made him look good today, they just never bothered to cover the guy. i mean he was wide fucking open like 5 times.
It's their Erhardt-Perkins option routes. Receivers determine their routes based on the coverage, so they get open a lot.
True. All four teams playing today had one thing in common; Franchise QB. Keeping digging till we find one, and put the "Stop Gap/Journey Man QB" crackpipe down
Brady would make the drunk, homeless guy on the corner look good. He is the best ever. The Jets need a guy who can throw more TD's than INT's, for starters. That guy is not on our roster today.
You have to be able to protect Tom Brady first. Offensive line is how you rebuild and offense. You have to have a running attack as well to balance out your arial assault, and keep the defense honest. Tom Brady is the luckiest 6th round draft pick to ever "grace" the NFL.
Tom Brady makes any receiver with good hands look good. The Pats run plays out of maybe a half dozen formations and the routes out of each of them are the same. So all Brady is doing is looking at 3 spots on the field a second after the snap and then letting the ball go to where one of the receivers will be in another second. All the guy has to do is run the right route based on the coverage and have good hands. Brady is the one who decides where the ball is going and then he puts it there on a dime. That's why he's one of the great QB's of all time. You can't defend what the Pats are doing because there are about a dozen different places the ball could wind up on each play, all within a few seconds of the snap and Brady knows where the ball is going and nobody else on the field does. The receivers just need to make the right cut based on the coverage and turn their head to look for the ball and catch it. When a receiver is particularly good at reading the coverage, like Julian Edelman a former QB is, they get a lot of throws their way as long as they have the hands to catch the ball reliably. They're in the right place at the right time consistently and they catch 100 balls that year.
They remind me of those stories you hear of a massive robbery with no shots fired and no clues...... Their simplicity, their supreme coaching, their buy-in from players is their genius. The attention to detail is truly remarkable. They had 5-6 plays go against them, big gains, but suddenly their D line player gets injured and gives them a TV blow. No one notices, but I do. Momentum done. They run a flea flicker and the moron covering the WR who is 2 steps from Brady, runs backwards.WTF. I fully respect a perennial unstoppable winner being a NYY fan. Bill B plus Tom B are really unstoppable for now. They will win 3 more Super Bowls before its over. I'm sad, disgusted, and apathetic. I really don't care bout football much anymore. I "hate" BB and TB. Call me in 2022
1) 90-95% of this forum knows it's a QB-driven league. 2) The Jets obviously don't know if Hack has a future in the NFL because they don't know what an NFL QB looks like. They let a career backup stare them down for 8 figures the day before camp started. 3) They can draft QBs til the cows come home and it won't change the fact that they don't know how to develop a QB. This team is burnt toast and will continue to be until the NFL folds.
The Pats Oline is filled with second tier players year in and year out because the offense is designed to get the ball out quickly so they don't have to sustain blocks. They are also taught very well how to conceal a hold. That's not an elite offensive line, if anything they are a product of the system.
It's not the routes, it's the terminology. They use an E-P language and 3-4 different play design philosophies. That's why they hardly ever have miscommunications in the huddle or during audibles and why their players are always in the right place at the right time. That, and the fact that they value intelligence over freak athletic ability on offense.
I hate them. If those smug a-holes were doing this in the NFC, or even another division in the AFC, it wouldn't be so hard to take.
In other words - Patriots [cheat.] The message is clear - it's coming from the top, and it trickles down to the lowest-rank foot soldiers.
Brady is what we have been watching since 2001, I was at the game in NE when Moe Lewis brought him off the bench, he is cool, smart, hard working with a good arm who is great in the clutch. We are all unfortunately sick of watching this machine always running smoothly. What amazes me most of all about this team is the scheme they run their offense with when they use receivers that impress no one at a combine before the drafts. Hogan, Amendola, Edelman, formerly Welker, they go over the middle split the seams in zones, continually be willing to take a hit after a catch, this is what gives Brady a comfort zone standing When in the pocket. Yeah they have one sideline fast receiver every year to keep a defense honest, I think he was targeted once yesterday. It is the Wayne Chrebet Cole Beasley type receiver the guy who does not impress anyone with his 40 speed or his ability to impress anyone with his vertical jump who makes up for those shortcomings with sure hands good route running and willing to take a hit and always throw a block when their number is not called. I despise Bill B but I do respect his ability to run a team.
You're right, EP is technically the term for the language not the option routes. It takes a great QB and coaching staff to pull the system off though, Fitz/Geno could never do it here. Maybe Hack could but I doubt it lol.
Erhardt/Perkins is a name of an actual system. The difference is, as abyzmul pointed out, in terminology. Specifically, it's a system designed to facilitate the communication between players. The difference is mind-boggling. For instance, E/P play calls rarely exceed 5 to 6 words. For instance, you should have no problem finding the route combination [Ghost/Tosser] from google, but that's not the whole story. It is usually called in form of: F Right 72 Ghost Tosser. First two are the formation call, the number is the protection call and the last two words are the route combination. Now, compare that with: Brown Right Slot 'A' Right 322 Y Stick or East Right Slot 'U' Counter Motion 322 Y Stick It's same route combination, but with different formation. Do you notice the major difference between WCO and E/P? One thing very clear is, they don't have an individual [protection] call in WCO. Every protection scheme is tied to individual plays. [Ok - to break it down for you: Brown Right = formation call, Slot 'A' Right -> Motion call, 322 Y Stick -> Route combination. There is no protection call in this play. Nor is it in the next play call.] In case of the E/P? The same route combination I pointed out [Ghost/Tosser] can be run from: F Right/Left, Spread Right/Left, 2/3 Out Slot Hat, 0/1 Near Slot hat, 0/1 Near Open Hax. [That is 5 different formation with same play, after discounting left/right flip.] So - at one point Brady could be calling F Right 72 Ghost Tosser. Then, after hitting his RB on a flat to the right side of the hashmark he can call something like Spread Left 73 Ghost Tosser. Almost exactly same play call, just from different formation. Compare that with the disaster from WCO. [I don't know if these terminologies are still in use. Ghost/Tosser was in use as of as late as 2005. The monstrosity above was straight from 1997 Green Bay playbook.] So - when I look at the playbook, I see a [single diagram] in case of WCO. Yes. 1 play = 1 diagram. WCO play has a few basic info written in the diagram [Like Alert, the depth for WRs, Hat-on-hat for OLs etc.] In E/P, a whole page is dedicated to a single play. Obviously it doesn't discuss any protection; that's built in the play call. Or - they distilled the protection call as an individual element, and tied a few plays into the protection scheme. [This is indeed very brilliant.] After this, the page includes basic info necessary [who does what on which situation, etc - for all 6 moving participants; QB, HB, WR 1/2/3, TE etc] The rest shows the play changes in different formation. So in some cases one play will come in form of 4 diagrams, in some, 5, usually 6. ==================================================================================== I think, this is the real beauty of E/P system. You could load the offense with a few thousand pages of different plays [specialty of morons like Al Saunders.] or limit what the players have to practice without compromising the complexity.
Apparently you didn't see all the times yesterday when Brady had all day to throw. They also have a pretty good running game, which is due to the o-line (and Dante Scarnecchia coming back to coach it.). Ron
