One positive note... Petty did start chucking it down the field

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  1. jxc

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    He went from nothing but check downs in his previous outing to flinging it 40 yards repeatedly.

    Now if he can just find the middle ground, a nice mix of checkdowns and long bombs, he might actually win a game or two.
     
  2. Burnz

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    He also needs to not under/over throw his WR's he was extremely inconsistent. I'd like to see him with a gameplan not down by 31 and need chunk plays every down
     
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    I'm curious as to what the play calls were the other night. Was Gailey calling all those long passes, did Petty have options, or did Petty change the plays at the LOS once he saw the D alignment? It's hard to believe that Gailey would have called the plays to allow Petty to keep airing it out, but maybe he wanted to see how Petty would do, what would happen.

    Even though it's a short week, I'm hoping that Gailey will devise a game plan devised around what Petty does well. If Bowles was telling the truth about the plan being to start Petty the last 4 games all along (fat chance), then Gailey should have already have a game plan ready and Petty should have been working on it. I don't believe that's the case, but Gailey should be able to devise a decent game plan that's better than the crap against the Rams.

    He should have some shorter, easy passes to complete early to get Petty in a groove, build his confidence, and get the offense in a flow. I like that the TEs immediately got more involved when Petty entered the game. Continue that, add in some RB screens and wheel routes, WR screens, slants, and every route on the route tree. He should mix in some intermediate and longer passes to keep the D off balance, not be predictable, and let them know that they're going to have to defend every route in the route tree. With a nice mixture of runs, the offense should be able to move the ball and put some points on the board. They need to play aggressively and not passively, and not play for FGs.
     
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    IMO the inconsistency is a result of a lack of practice snaps. It takes time and reps to develop timing and get on the same page as his receivers.
     
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    I'm hoping. I knew the situation he was in was complete shit down 31+. So I still held some reservations
     
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    That'll happen when pigs fly!!! LOL (Nice avatar!)
     
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    The only interesting part of that "diarrhea" some might call a game is when Petty went shotgun (basically every play) and started throwing bombs. His receivers, of course, dropped many of the passes but at least there was something to watch. Got to dial it in but at least something. Hey, and ASJ made a few plays. Could see him being a pretty good red zone target. Anyone have an opinion on what kind of blocker ASJ is?
     
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    Don't know much about ASJ, but your avatar rules. Nothing beats Timmy Cappello in The Lost Boys.
     
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    We should try him at linebacker.........Our coaching staff.and front office.....The real lost boys!
     
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    He has a nice arm...On one pass our WR dropped a gimme. Petty needs some work but he can be very good I think.

    Hackenberg is the one that can be franchise QB but he needs practice and alot of work
     
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    I'll say this much about Petty. He's got a gun for an arm.
     
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    Can I just say that I'm much more excited to watch the next 4 games with these young guys than I have been to watch any game since Week 3?
     
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    Petty has got to get some reps with the starters before there is any chance that they can get on the same page timing-wise. I expect they won't be this coming game against the 49rs - its just too soon. I'll really be looking at the following game against the Dolphins at home for Petty to make some real strides and show us what he can do (and if he's got a future here).
     
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    1. He got a live arm. I am pleased to see that.

    2. As for the outing last night: Petty should start looking [past] the first read.

    3. Yeah - he was inconsistent. Nothing a good practice can't solve.

    4. His receivers did everything in their power to fuck it up, mind you. I saw 4 drops and Robby Anderson had the ball barely beyond his finger tips twice. Obviously, archaic art of [diving catch] is not taught in today's NFL.
     
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    Some of those balls were overthrown but I could see Petty adjusting and hitting Anderson in stride on some deep balls this week
     
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    The last paragraph of your post made me immediately ask: 'So why didn't they do this with Fitzpatrick? Wouldn't this be a logical way to build a game plan? Even accounting for Fitz's weak arm, you could still incorporate all of these elements in a game plan, and yet they didn't. To me that's the million dollar question. Because it might mean that they won't do this for Petty either. I sure hope that they do follow your outline though, because it's makes the most sense.

    And on a related note: Whose idea was it to not use TEs as offensive weapons? That's the most ridiculous idea I've ever heard of! Even if it wasn't dictated by Bowles, he's certainly been aware of it and hasn't overridden it, so that's yet another reason I think he's unqualified to be HC.
     
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    I could be wrong, but I think they didn't do it with Fitz because he's an 11-year veteran and didn't think he would need it. Of course, it could just be that Gailey doesn't do that or think it necessary. I believe it is the smart thing to do with a young QB to help build his confidence and get him in the flow.
     
  19. ColoradoContrails

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    What you posted:
    "...shorter, easy passes to complete early to get Petty in a groove, build his confidence, and get the offense in a flow. I like that the TEs immediately got more involved when Petty entered the game. Continue that, add in some RB screens and wheel routes, WR screens, slants, and every route on the route tree. He should mix in some intermediate and longer passes to keep the D off balance, not be predictable, and let them know that they're going to have to defend every route in the route tree. With a nice mixture of runs, the offense should be able to move the ball and put some points on the board. They need to play aggressively and not passively, and not play for FGs."

    I guess I don't see why that has to be a recipe for just a young QB. This sounds like a good basis for a successful game plan even if it was Joe Namath or Johnny Unitas. I just don't get the play calling at all. And again, no TE's catching passes?????? It just seems like the game plans were made by throwing darts at a board with the plays in them or something. Bad coaching!
     
  20. NCJetsfan

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    Hey, I'm in agreement with you that OCs should do it. I've just noticed that some OCs seem to do that kind of thing, and others don't. I think the ones who do surely must be more successful overall, but have no data to back that up. It just makes common sense. Everyone has bad days, a nd can use some help to be as effective as they can. Even on "good" days, there's nothing wrong with getting your QB playing well from the beginning of the game, getting him in a groove and playing confidently.

    I suspect that the better OCs do this as part of their game plan in their opening drive script, and we see those teams open the game with a long steady drive which result in points on the board.
     

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