Is Mauldin a potential bust?

James Harrison bounced around practice squads for years before becoming a super bowl winning super star

 

Grigson is a genius for picking Andrew Luck. A+

 

Actually, now that I think about it, Williams was probably the most "can't miss" prospect weve seen since Luck. Hard to believe that he fell to 6.

 

Then pass it to me afterwards and I don't even smoke.

 

I think it took some balls to stay put and take even a can't miss prospect like Williams when the Jets already had two elite level talents at the same position and they had a slew of other needs.

I doubt their phone was ringing off the hook since teams were probably expecting them to take White, Beasley or one of the tackles, so they were probably trying to trade up with the Bears for him, and I doubt they'd have been criticized much for doing just that.

Lots of people preach BPA like it's a no brainer, but a lot of teams just don't do it.

 

I'm not sure what some of you expect out of these players, especially in regards to some of these younger prospects such as Mauldin. Some of these thread topics have been head scratchers. This Mauldin kid isn't even close to being mentioned within a bust category.

Lets not forget that Lorenzo Mauldin is one of the Jets youngest defensive players at only 23 years of age. Of course mental mistakes are bound to happen. It's natural for a player with as much NFL inexperience as Lorenzo has.

It's also pretty naive to overlook the fact that he's still only two games into his 2nd NFL season.

So why are some posters acting as if he's a finished product?

I understand we've needed an outside pass rush for a while now but it's absolutely mind boggling to criticize a late 3rd rounder such as Mauldin (who's only a 2nd year player) as some type of potential bust.

Let's stop pretending that there aren't expected learning curves when transitioning from college to the pros. This kid is still developing his craft while learning his position. Our coaching staff hasn't even had a chance to tap into his full potential.

Last year as only a raw rookie Mauldin was given an opportunity with playing time and he ended up recording 1 fumble recovery and 4 sacks along with adding occasional pressure from the outside during only his rookie season. He's no 1st round Vernon Gholston. Mauldin actually has a motor. Here in 2016 he already has 1 sack after only two games played (on pace for 8 sacks) along with a couple of tackles.

What all do you want from this kid? To become a pass rushing monster over night? To have sound fundamentals? To not learn from mistakes? To be flawless?

Adding younger LB's such as Mauldin & Lee was a must in order to re-vamp the unit. These kids may not be putting up big time tackle & sack numbers as of right now but their speed, athletic ability, quickness, pursuit, athletsim and coverage ability doesn't show up on the box score either.

Mauldin is an LB. Let's not forget that. He hasn't been responsible for our secondary break downs regarding big plays down field. Our run defense has been stout thus far & unlike last year we aren't getting embarrassed by HB's catching out of the backfield against us.

We have Mauldin, Lee and Jenkins has yet to play. If Winters emerges & Clady stays healthy we could be in position to draft an OLB during round 1 come next year's draft and if Mauldin doesn't break out into a 3 down starter he can give us great depth at OLB. He could end up being valuable for years to come but yet we're having a discussion about a young 3rd Rounder already being considered as a potential bust?

Ridiculous.

 

It's hard to be a liability when the scheme outweighs the player.

He isn't getting the snaps because TB has been getting his best players on the field. They happen to be along the DL.

Doesn't mean he is a bad player, just means he isn't as good right now as the other guys on the field.

He doesn't play the other OLB position, so he's the odd man out so far this season.

 

I jinxed it guys sorry. I had changed from Richardsonthebeast, but he got suspended...twice. Maybe I should be TomBradythebeast?

 

This thread is a joke. Mauldin has 5 sacks in 17 games. It took Bryan Thomas, a first round pick, 4 full seasons before he had 5 sacks. Let's let the kid develop, please. If he gets 6-8 sacks this season that's fine for this team with the other front 7 personnel.

 

Exactly.

There's also more to Mauldin than sack numbers on the box score as well. His youth, athletsim, pressure from the outside, pursuit and coverage ability against HB's coming out of the backfield won't show up on the stat sheet.

Drafting Mauldin last year and the draftings of both Lee & Jenkins this offseason was a must in order to re-vamp and rejuvenate this unit.

Mauldin was a late 3rd Rounder. 18th pick of the 3rd round (82nd overall). We needed to go LB there.

For those considering Mauldin as a potential bust, which LB (outside of Kwon Alexander of the Buccaneers) would you have taken with that Jets draft selection of Mauldin?

Please, list off the LB's (selected after Mauldin) in which are currently feasting on an NFL level. I'll be waiting.

Good luck dropping linebacker names because Mauldin has already shown more pass rushing promise than just about each & every LB drafted after Mauldin; outside of only Kwon Alexander.

 

I don't think he's a bust. The talent is obvious, but he needs to get stronger and needs to be more disciplined at his position. I think he'll eventually come around.

 

I talked about specific issues with his play when he's been on the field this year that make him a liability. I never mentioned anything about his lack of snaps.

If you disagree with the points I made feel free to say why, but nothing you posted addressed what I actually said.

Not sure why people are so defensive about my pointing out the flaws I've seen as if we're not supposed to criticize mauldin.

 

It's really tough to make that kind of judgement on any player 2 games into the season (that goes for Revis too). To say they are having a rough start would be fair, but otherwise it's like calling out of work after the first stoplight because "there was to much traffic"

 

You just don't get it, do you?

For the [average] Jet fans, the player on the field must produce, and produce at all-pro level, regardless of how long he has been in the league, regardless of where he was drafted, and regardless of whether that is indeed the best for the team.

Most of all - the production must be visible on the stat sheet.

If he doesn't produce on the stat sheet, on the moment he steps onto the field, he is labeled bust. That's how it is here with the Jet fans. Live with it. Don't think they will change. They won't.

 

Outside of Kwon Alexander of the Buccaneers, which LB drafted after Lorenzo Mauldin during the 2015 NFL draft has shown as much promise as Lorenzo Mauldin has as a pass rusher? The answer would be no one.

As previously stated he's one of the youngest Jet defensive players at the age of only 23 and also only two games into his 2nd NFL season.

 

OMG

The Jets are finally putting together an awesome football team that will get better imho..so of course someone starts these downer threads

FYI Lorenzo Maudlin is not Joey Bosa so temper your expectations guys

We are getting burned on big plays.. why is this happening, Now that's a decent discussion

 

Coaching is why that's happening, same as last year

 

It's part of it at least. I agree. Doesn't mean they can't fix it.

Maybe AA can help with the depth and scheme's

 

Jadeveon Clowney was drafted 1st overall of the 1st round. Clowney has recorded 5.5 sacks as a 3rd year player (18 games played).

Lorenzo Mauldin was drafted 82nd overall of the 3rd round. Mauldin has recorded 5.0 sacks as a 2nd year player (17 games played).

I just wanted to point that out.

It's an embarrassment to our knowledgeable fan base to even mention the word 'bust' within the same sentence as Lorenzo Mauldin; especially after living through the Vernon Gholston years.

Still. Not one single poster has answered my question.

○●○ Which OLB drafted after Lorenzo Mauldin (not named Kwon Alexander) has shown more promise than that of Lorenzo Mauldin as a pass rusher?