Yeah and we did it again with Hackenberg this year. 1st round we go defensive stud and the 2nd round we go with offensive "project". That project then NEVER works out and we sit here wondering why our offense has never been good with the exception of last year that was accomplished off of the backs of free agent pickups. I bet we do the same thing next year.
I was talking about this at lunch today with an Eagle and Giant fan. The Giant fan loves the GB and Pitt organization because they can draft well and hardly ever dip into the FA pool. Hopefully with Mike M. as GM we have solved our scouting problems. Time will tell....
Idk, im in the camp that Dustin Keller was a bust. Hell, Kellen Davis had a longer career. Plus we traded up to get him, which hurts that much more.
Amaro had 1400 receiving yards in his last year at Texas Tech and here he can't hold on to a single pass thrown his way, I don't get it.
Keller's leg was destroyed when he signed with Miami ... who knows how long he would've been in the league if that didn't happen. Would've been a serviceable player and far better then Kellen Davis.
What defensive need do we have next year? The only one I can possibly foresee is if Revis sucks this year and there's a stud CB sitting there at the Jets' pick. If Clady gets injured or struggles, LT will definitely be the #1 need. Even if he plays well, the Jets will need to find his successor so they aren't in the same spot as they were with Brick. RT is also a HUGE need. I will be very surprised if the Jets' #1 pick next season is a defensive player.
Right he was so great that we let him walk, a guy we traded up for... You know who the packers drafted with the pick we traded right? Helen Keller sucked, couldn't block, another waste by Mr. T.
Couldn't block, but he could catch and make plays if utilized correctly which is something Schotty never did, he could've had better seasons. We also had crap at QB. Not saying he was a star, but serviceable? Absolutely.
Kellen Davis having a longer career is really meaningless. I am sure Keller would still be around the league had it not been for the injury. In 2 seasons he had more receiving yards than Davis has in his career and 2 more seasons that were close. He averaged over 50 receptions and 600 yards a season, not all pro but definitely a good TE. I was not a big Keller fan but thought he was a good TE, blame the GM for drafting him too early if you think he was but I don't think you can call him a bust.
When you TRADE UP to get a guy in the first round, and he makes no pro bowls, and you guys are saying he's "serviceable" you really need to re-evaluate your expectations. 1st round tight end. HE sucked for where we drafted him. If we got him in round 3 ok.
The trade up is whatever, if we had a better QB and OC, Keller would've had a better career here. Fucking pro bowls aren't achievements they are popularity contests, I don't know about you, but I want players to help us win and he clearly did that in big spots for us in the past. Shit ain't work out here, and he fucked up his leg. Crappy way to end his career, but to compare him to the crap that is Kellen Davis? Keller helped us win a playoff game, don't you forget that. I am not calling him Antonio Gates, he was serviceable.
I'd say that's a sign that the management / FO sucked more than the player, and to say Kellen Davis is btter because he's had a better career than a dude who destroyed his knee is absolutely frickin retarded...... man some people can't see the forest through the trees btw..... I hated the Keller pick in the first round, same year the morons drafted Gholston.
The length of their careers is irrelevant because this happened, you don't know how much was his career going to last if it wasn't for this injury.
Jane Amaro might make this team due to subpar competition, but i also wouldn't be surprised if were cut. He simply cannot block, giving him little value as an inline TE, and i don't anticipate that will change. For that reason, Davis makes the team as a starter by default. i also think Enunwa provides more value as an H-back, and should be the starter there. He is a good run blocker on the second level, he's versatile to move around, and moves better in space. So imo, Amaro is competing for a backup spot, and he doesn't contribute much at all on specials. not a good combination. We don't have room for a developmental TE, with a high ego, soft play, and propensity to get into the coaches dog house. doesn't matter where guys were drafted to me. it's about what they can offer. I had hoped Amaro could grow into a guy who can at least backup either TE spot, but I'm not seeing it.......again. Sudfeld or Bostick could overtake the spot on versatility, and i'd be in favor of that.
Using the Pro Bowl to bolster your argument is like when you tell people you must be good looking because your mama said you were. Draft position also has no bearing on how good or bad a player is. Over 50 receptions and over 600 yards a year on average is not a TE that sucks. No, he was not an all around TE and he was not the best in the league but he was a good TE. He certainly does not belong anywhere near a group that includes Kellen Davis. Edit: Also, the trade you keep referencing was a 4th round pick given up to move up the 6 spots and get Keller. A 4th round pick, hardly breaking the bank.
I agree, he would've had a role on this team because he can damage defenses down the seams and in the flat. If he improved on his blocking, his value would've been that much better.
Yeah, Keller was a good player for us. He was a need and they prolly didn't want to chance not getting him later in the second round. He played very well for us in the playoffs also. He was a part of a couple of successful seasons Bashing him for how things turned out in the end and our FO is overboard. I felt terrible for him when he got hurt
It's a credibility issue. You don't watch the games, yet you write these long drawn out posts with what you think is analysis, but you barely watch any Jets games year. How is anyone supposed to take what you say seriously?! It's like watching the first 15 minutes of a movie and writing a detailed review on it saying how much it sucked. Where did I lie? You just admitted you don't watch the games. I'm going to discredit your opinion because the best you have to offer is looking at the box score, and making your opinion based on that. It's silly. You should've never admitted you only watch a couple games a year if you wanted your opinion taken seriously. Stop crying, and throwing out insults with no merit. Until you start watching the games, your opinion is about as valid as my 3 year old nephew, yet even he probably watches more Jets games a year than you do, bro.
