Hackenberg

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  1. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Yea - Geno is here in case of emergency until after PS W4 at this point. I think there's an outside chance he stays on the roster into the regular season depending on injuries at other positions and positional counts.
     
  2. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    Drafted on potential....,, dude, he was drafted because Fitz wasn't on the team at that time and we had no idea if he would be at all.

    If you think this team is ready to burn 2nd round picks on project qb's, you must not watch football either..

    He was drafted to push Petty and Geno during this camp, off season, and be on the team as our #3.

    Are all you Hack jock sniffers, this stupid?
    Now we have no need for him this season, and shouldn't have drafted this clip board holder. Matt Sims showed more promise.
     
  3. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    You realize he might not be on the team next season, now that Petty has played and played better?
    Battling for a starting spot? Really?
     
  4. pdxdrew

    pdxdrew Well-Known Member

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    I swear, "This is like a gladiator movie where the Arena crowd shouts, "GIVE US MORE BLOOD!"

    The Jets know of Hack goes out there and shows any sign of weakness then he's toast. He's a QB with potential but he's a project. We have given Petty a whole year before we expected anything from him. Hackenberg needs even more time. Whether it's ill advisable to have drafted him that early is another story.
     
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    rico college Well-Known Member

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    Assigning Hack to clipboard jockey duty for his first year would be the smart move, and very Un-Jet like.


    What's really going on? Bust?
     
  6. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    I like Petty more than Geno, but to say he has taken Geno's job is silly.
    When Petty has started how many games in the NFL? Petty may get on the field and lay twice the egg that Geno has. Geno has won games in the NFL, Petty hasn't taken a snap.
    I don't think a couple games against 2nd, 3rd, and 4th string guys hands Petty the reins yet.
    I hope someone on our team takes control as QB, but we have a debacle at QB right now.
    Put it this way, take Brandon Marshall off this team in the regular season, and we don't have a quality NFL starter.
     
  7. Jetsfansince95

    Jetsfansince95 Well-Known Member

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    Decker, Forte, Mangold, Carpenter ... and when healthy Clady are quality ...
     
  8. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    Ok, since you missed the rest of the post pertaining to the QB position.... A quality starting QB on the roster.
     
  9. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Geno is on the last year of his contract. The current FO & CS inherited him after his two poor seasons in the NFL. They went on to immediately draft a QB and sign a QB. The following year they drafted another QB and overpaid for a journeyman QB on the first day of camp.

    How much do you think they value Geno Smith compared to the guys they actually signed or drafted? If we have to rely on Geno for any stretch we're fucked anyway. Petty has shown he can at least run the offense without being a train wreck which is about all you get out of Geno, maybe more.

    Geno is gone after PS week 4 unless there's a QB injury or Petty sends dick picks to Woody Johnson.
     
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    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    Claiming he was drafted because a stop gap vet was not yet signed makes you look even more foolish than you have already shown yourself to be.
     
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  11. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    Dude, tbruner has already told us that there is no way Hack is a project since he was drafted in the 2nd round. I mean who you gonna believe, coaches? scouts? or tbruner?
    He should be starting right now, cut everyone else.
     
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  12. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    I guess you will see. I hope you are right. Truth is Bowles had him as starter until Fitz, (signed as a backup) had to play. Fitz without Marshall is just as bad as any QB we have.
    Hack wouldn't be on this team if the staff had gotten Fitz to sign between January and the draft. Now we r stuck with a project 2nd round QB.
     
  13. pdxdrew

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    The Jets second round pick curse.... aka the Stephen Hill Conundrum.
     
  14. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    “I can’t really have insight into how everybody views him and sees him,” Maccagnan said. “I just know that we liked him and we thought he was a good prospect. Again, there’s risk. We know that. But we also think that there’s also a lot of potential there to develop into a very good player, too.”

    Maccagnan said. “But I think at the end of the day, in a perfect world, you like to give those guys a chance to sort of grow, develop before you have to throw them into the fire.”

    We think he’s got a lot of potential and upside,” Jets general manager Mike Maccagnan said Friday night.

    Jets General Manager Mike Maccagnan and Coach Todd Bowles said the team selected Hackenberg because of his potential, work ethic and character and because he was the highest player rated on the board at the time.

    “It doesn’t change anything with our approach to Ryan,” Maccagnan said.
     
  15. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I highly doubt mac was drafting anyone based on Fitz being on the roster or not. If he was then he's probably going to be a massive failure as a GM. I like to think he's more savy than that. The fact Geno was the starter before Fitz was signed is irrelevant to me. Obviously that wasn't acceptable to them given they overpaid fitz the day camp started to avoid having Geno as the starter.
     
  16. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    The way I see this playing out, this year Petty is named backup, Geno is cut, Hack is 3rd QB on roster. Next year Fitz is gone, Petty and Hack go into TC and Hack beats him for the starting spot and Petty is still the backup.

    I just hope that one of them becomes a franchise QB, however because it's so hard to find a franchise QB, I hope they become a top 10 QB of the next generation of NFL QBs.
     
  17. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Dude, you're the only one whose logic is stupid in this conversation. I didn't say that fans shouldn't criticize the FO or question moves, nor did I say that GMs or HCs are infallible. There is a time for that however, and legitimate reasons for doing so. Just because a player hasn't taken a snap in preseason isn't a legitimate reason.

    What is preseason? It's nothing. It's meaningless. It's basically a chance for teams to make more money off their fans, and showcase some young players. It doesn't matter one bit that Hack hasn't taken a snap in a preseason game yet. HCs want players to perform well when they see the field. There's no point in their playing a player if they know he's going to struggle and look bad. Hack may eventually prove to have been a bad pick, but it's way too early to say that now just because he hasn't taken a snap in a preseason game. That's just laughable and shows how clueless you are. Only stupid people deem draft picks busts in their first few months on the team. It's one thing to say that you "think" a player is gonna wind up being a bust, but quite another to state it as if it's already a proven fact.

    It's obvious that you don't like Hack and didn't want the Jets to take him. You aren't rooting for him to succeed. You just want him to play, struggle and fail so you can crow that you were right. You're a lousy, pathetic excuse for a fan.
     
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  18. JetsNation06

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    I think Macc's done a solid to above average job in the draft so far. However I think that he was too heavily influenced by his mentor, Casserly, when it came to the Hack pick.

    I don't think the kid will ever make it. Not the end of the world. We as Jets fans move on and keep looking for that elusive franchise QB. In the meantime, we got Fitz who is a solid NFL starter and Petty who could be the sleeper in this whole deal.
     
  19. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    Really?
    If he is such a stop gap, then why did Mac give him $12 million? To save face with the fan base? No, because our staff believes we can win now.
    Put it this way, if Fitz was signed before the draft, Hack wouldn't be on the team. If Fitz was the plan, and he is, especially considering "mr potential" hasn't taken a snap, it's looking like Mac shit his pants by jumping the gun. Hack sure wasn't the best player available.
     
  20. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    The fact that you think that Hack was drafted to contribute this season proves what an effing dumbass you are! Mac said from the beginning that Hack was a project and he has continued to state that Hack would not see the field this year. He's a developmental prospect. Normally, "projects" aren't taken in the second round, but that's what the NFL has come to in terms of QBs. That shows that they're the most important position. It is a QB-driven league. Teams are desperate to find QBs. GMs must find QBs if their team doesn't have one, or they don't keep their jobs for long.

    It's obvious that you don't watch the NFL and haven't in quite a while. It's also obvious that you don't read very much. Maybe you should just crawl back under the rock from whence you came to start posting in this thread. Then you can live happily in your pretend world where OL are more important than QBs. ROFLMAO!
     
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