Democratic Nomination Thread

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  1. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    To me, he is just holding himself to his own word, which he made at the very start. He said he'd support the Democratic nominee if he lost, because it was still going to be way better than any Republican nominee. Whether he believes that now, I'm not sure, but he's one of the few politicians who will do what he says.

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    Trump is a populist. He's going to make the GOP cry before he's done win or lose.
     
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    To put it into a little more detailed context BtB, I don't think it was so much Trump taking on Bill's indiscretions in and of itself so much as it was a response to Hillary attempting to play the misogynist card against the Trumpster by referring to the 'woman shots' Trump took at Megan Kelly ("Let it Bleed"), Carly Fiorina ("Yikes, that face!"), and Rosie O'Donnell ("Fat pig"). Further, that tact was a continuation of the left's already-in-play "War on Woman" campaign against the GOP, an example of which was using Sandra Fluke (Georgetown Univ.) as their poster child - Fluke was the one who sought to include a birth control mandate in health insurance (which prompted the Rush Limbaugh misogynist fallout).

    Back to Trump: he pretty much responding to Hillary with: "so you wanna play the misogynist card?" and then used Bill's indiscretions as a platform in which to fire back at her regarding her own (supposedly hypocritical) "war on woman" in which she supposedly threw Bill's alleged "victimized women" under the bus in the name of political expediency. Whatever and "who cares?" aside, what was noteworthy was Team Hillary not playing that card as aggressively thereafter.
     
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    Absolutely, anyone who thinks he is truly going to follow through on what he says is in pure denial. Sadly that's why I think if I couldn't vote for anyone else I'd vote for him before Hillary. Fortunately I don't live in North Korea and I can vote for someone I agree mostly with.
     
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    I'm a little torn on this endorsement.

    On one hand, Bernie is being practical by saying "anyone but Trump" and always said he would take Hillary on her worst day over any Republican on his best. But then this feels like selling out a bit, endorsing the candidate who stands for everything you've campaigned against and fought for for decades.

    Why not hold out until the convention at the very least? He had serious leverage with the Democratic Party and could have gotten more out of them before endorsing.
     
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    Bernie's leverage was slipping daily as others jumped in to endorse Hillary. His last real shot at the nomination was the outcome of the e-mail investigation being extremely negative and instead it was just very negative.

    The Democrats are going to ride Hillary to whatever result happens in the fall and if she loses the race the Clinton era in the Democratic Party will be definitively over.
     
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    The only people who are shocked and would let the non-indictment affect their decision were people who weren't voting for her anyway.

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    Did you ever consider that the FBI's scathing smack down of Hillary's careless treatment of state secrets and pointing out more of Hillary's blatant lies might have moved undecided voters?
     
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    The era of Clintons will be over, and maybe all establishment Democrats running for president.
     
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    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...y-half-of-sanders-millennial-supporters-would
     
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    Bernie can do what he wants but his voters certainly shouldn't vote for Hillary.
     
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    I think it's safe to say that both candidates in the election will be hostile towards the youth vote in terms of their policies.

    The question is whether or not Trump is really protectionist or not. If Trump is protectionist in a way that keeps jobs in the country and creates new ones here then he's definitely a better candidate for young voters than Hillary. If he's just Club for Growth in the end then he's going to be worse for them by a mile because Club for Growth is all about growing the 2%'s income and screwing everybody else.
     
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    Makes sense to me. When you look, Johnson's views on immigration, abortion, criminal justice and the environment seem closer to Sanders views than Clinton, from what I see. Of course this statement is based upon Clinton's past actions and statements not her current flip flop statements. The economy and taxation is another story but overall I can see why many of his backers would look third party.
     
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    Young voters have a very strong tendency to throw away their vote on a third party candidate. This is because they don't think it's worth much anyway and they're very anti-establishment as a group.

    If Hillary doesn't pick Bernie Sanders as her VP she's got a decent chance at throwing away the election.

    She doesn't like him and she doesn't like most of his policy proposals.

    Newsflash: Bernie's supporters don't like her and they don't like most of her policy proposals.

    It's an idiot-proof decision but this is a year where idiots apparently rule the roost so she'll probably pick Julian Castro instead to firm up the Latino vote that Trump couldn't touch with a 10 foot pole anyway and that is already energized to vote heavily by his continuous stream of racist comments against Mexicans.
     
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    I figured 4 years ago when Julian Castro was doing Barry's SoU intro that he was going to be Hillary's VP candidate even before he got propped up as HUD Secretary and now I'll be shocked if he isn't.
     
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    I read that Trump is polling better with Hispanics than Romney did
     
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    Romney polled at 27% give or take with Hispanic voters going into the election and actually got 27% of them.

    Trump is polling at 23% right now.
     
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