Darron Lee

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  1. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    I don't care what role or scheme is run tiny linebackers don't make that much of an impact on 3 downs. It would be different if he was a sure tackler but he isn't. It would better if his coverage skills were stellar but they are not. Now our 3rd round pick I like because he will set the edge and do the dirty work necessary to stop running backs from running crazy around the ends. 230 lb inside linebackers will get crushed and moved out of the way. The world champions Broncos showed what you need. They had 2 stout linebackers in Ware and Miller pushing and collasping the pocket and having Brady speed up his reads. That is the blueprint.
     
  2. Walt White

    Walt White Well-Known Member

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    What about Trevathan?

    Yep, clueless
     
  3. Br4d

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    The Jets outside linebackers right now look to be Lorenzo Mauldin on the right side and Jordan Jenkins as the most likely candidate on the left. Lee isn't going to play outside much. The Jets plan to play him inside at this point and as a nickelbacker on 3rd down. The Jets have a lot of beef up front, even with Snacks gone and even if they wind up trading Mo. They've still got Richardson and Williams and McLendon and Jarvis Jenkins and most of the backups from last year.

    It's not like they drafted Lee looking for him to play the Bryan Thomas or Calvin Pace roles in the defense. That's Jordan Jenkins turf to claim.
     
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  4. Walt White

    Walt White Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, he, Jenkins, actually reminds me of Bryan Thomas. We drafted Thomas to hopefully get a pass rusher DE, and he turned out to be a great edge setter later on in the 3-4.
    Maybe we'll get more on a pass rush from Jenkins?
     
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  5. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    He's 240 lbs idiot. Don't try again you come off looking worst. Probably took you looking at every teams roster.
     
  6. Walt White

    Walt White Well-Known Member

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    Right, twenty nine pages of you proving you're an idiot saying the same thing over and over ad nauseam.

    You don't even know what you're looking at.
     
  7. Jeti

    Jeti Well-Known Member

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    Lee is 237....Holy shit 3 whole pounds. He wasnt brought here to be a 3 down player year 1.....Bowles will use him in space and move him around while he develops into the 3 down player he can become

    why the hell can't we let these young guys develop, why does every damn draft pick have to be a finished product or flawless
     
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  8. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    Glad to see you read my 29 pages of comment tool. Listen jockstrap carrier it perfectly fine for you to fall in love with a prospect. But you totally missed the scouting reports on how he's not a good tackler. Ok so he has good speed well what good would that be if he can't finish the tackle . He's worthless to a team. He's not a sideline to sideline player either. So that brings us to his coverage skills where he might have a limited role there. Lack of power, can't shed, instincts questionable.
     
  9. Walt White

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    Right, assuming you actually have a notion about the idea of the pick, and have some idea about what you're looking at, dismissing that you're comparing him to players that are playing different positions, and even that you know better than me about what a talent Darron Lee is: You stating that Mac, the scouting dep't, and TB missed on this for the reasons you stated and that you know better than them about Darron Lee makes me think you're trolling or insane with this shit over and over. Like I went back and followed your posts.
    You ranted like a moran about every picked as they came out. I was on here during the draft. Do you retain anything that doesn't fit your negative view of everything. Every scouting report ever has positives and negatives about every player ever. I don't think you even understand that. You bird brain.
     
  10. RochesterJet

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    I'll pipe my .02 in. If you're referring to the "old NFL", yes a light ILB gets washed out of the play. Today's NFL is completely different. It's about play recognition (something Lee does extremely well per NFL scouts) and shooting the gap. In the old NFL, it's about taking on Blocks at the point of attack to free up other tacklers.

    In the rare cases when this happens, we will have Henderson and Harris on the inside and Lee in more of a hybrid role. Either way you're evaluation is your evaluation. I respect your opinion but trying to be an Internet tough guy usually is the result of a lack of vocabulary and explanation. So just stop the name calling and respect others opinions like I do yours. Go jets!
     
  11. Kris 15

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    It's not like the Jets were just looking to draft any LB and settled on Lee. Bowles has stated that he's exactly what they were looking for from size/speed standpoint. This is the guy they wanted so imma trust that they have a plan for him. Sort of pointless to harp on his size when the coach was specifically looking for this type of player for his D.
     
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    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    The bolded might be the dumbest thing said about this years draft class. Congrats
     
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    I haven't seen a link posted to the scouting report by Dave-Te'Thomas elsewhere, so thought I'd share it. There's some interesting stats and info there.

    http://nfldraftreport.sportsblog.co...darron-lee-the-ohiostate-scouting-report.html

    Following are some quotes from the article (the bolding is mine).

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    I think we're gonna love this kid.
     
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  15. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    ^ watch the interview with him the day after he was drafted. They brought him right to Atlantic Health and wasted no time showcasing him.

    He seems to have a great personality and comfortability in front of the camera.


    Also he graded highest in metrics among off the ball LBs in this draft.

    I'd say buckle up people.
     
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  16. Walt White

    Walt White Well-Known Member

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    Saw that, and one or two others out there, forget.

    But yeah, I'd say the interview process just might've had something to do with the pick :rolleyes:

    Btw, check out the other picks. They all seem like bright, mature, solid young men. Fwiw.
     
  17. JStokes

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    Really a very articulate and thoughtful young man. Love his makeup.

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  18. RuJFan

    RuJFan Well-Known Member

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    Earlier today Mac has interview with Kay. Mac mentioned that at 20 Jets had call(s) from other team(s) asking to trade picks and Jets declined.

    That should tells you Jets wanted Lee, specifically. So he is certainly not "worthless to the team".
     
  19. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    According to two different articles today, the Jets first pick in the draft could have been very different.

    In a profootballtalk article, Mac admits that they tried to trade up for Laremy Tunsil.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-they-tried-to-move-up-to-take-laremy-tunsil/

    In another article regarding the Jets drafting Hackenberg, it was revealed that the Dallas Cowboys tried to get the Jets to trade down. Here's the relevant part of that article:

     
  20. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Yeah you're right. Lawrence Timmons gets crushed. So does Thomas Davis. They both came out the same size as Lee.

    The world champion Broncos you allude to? They started inside linebackers that came out of college at 237 pounds (+3 pounds over Lee) and 242 pounds (+8 pounds).

    If a linebacker can play, they can play. Their size becomes irrelevant, because they'll find a way. Thomas Davis left Georgia as a strong safety and undersized linebacker. Now he's one of the best in the league. Finding the ball and getting in on plays is what matters.

    We'll see. You're jumping to some silly conclusions though.
     

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