Hes one of the best finds we have ever had.Went undrafted ,We need to keep him guys like him are not easy to find.This is why I never like the Williams pick and thought it wasn't a great move,As soon as we drafted him I knew that meant we would not be able to keep all three in Richardson,Wilkerson,Harrison.Which means we drafted him to replace a player who's already great and has established himself as such.What's the point of that?Unless we keep everyone and I'm wrong (which isnt gonna happen)I don't like the situation
I think that's wishful thinking. Pass rushers are like QB's, it's a special talent to be at the top of that position that either you have or you don't.
i dont think anyone wants to get rid of harrison... but the reality is we cant keep everyone. Also, drafting williams was huge for us. since he will help soften the blow when one of those guys leave. which would have been the case even if we didnt draft williams.
Sheldon Richardson is unlikely to get the top end contract from anybody. His early career antics have pretty much guaranteed that. He'll get a very good contract and maybe if he's very lucky a top end contract full of smash the glass type clauses that let his team recover substantial bonus money without having to go to arbitration if he screws up.
If this is the case, I'll mention what I said earlier. Muhammad Wilkerson's contract negotiations have 0 correlation to Sheldon's future with the team. I believe the issue is the figure in terms of guaranteed cash. I don't think Mo is truly looking for 16M a season. They need to lock Mo up, as he's the team's best defensive player.
Yes the Jets could give Sheldon Richardson an extension already( has three years in). If Jets don't take the fifth year option with him , than he is a free agent after this year. So the jets definitely can give him extension now.
http://nflspinzone.com/2016/01/30/new-york-jets-making-case-damon-harrison/ Another big one is Damon Harrison, the man they call “Snacks”. He has rapidly ascended to the position of being one of the best nose tackles in the NFL. His impact is felt all over the defensive side of the football, and will command a big contract. Should he receive it in New York? The answer is yes, and Harrison may be even more deserving of a big deal than Muhammad Wilkerson. Most Jets’ fans know Harrison’s story. He entered the league as an undrafted rookie out of William Penn University. After a year on the bench, he became a starter in 2013, hasn’t missed a game since, and elevated himself to elite status, especially in the run game. “Snacks” has posted 193 tackles over his three years as a starter, including a career-high 72 tackles under Todd Bowles in 2015. According to Pro Football Focus, here are his yearly rankings in run defense among nose tackles since 2013: first, fourth, and second. Since 2013, Harrison has been the top nose tackle in “Run Stop Percentage”, which refers to the amount of times he makes a tackle for a loss in the run game against total run snaps. These are dominant numbers, but not the entire reason that he deserves a big paycheck from the Jets. He deserves it, more so than Wilkerson, because of what DOESN’T appear on a stat sheet. At 6’4″, 350 pounds, Harrison takes up 1-2 bodies on the offensive line on every snap. What does that do? It gives the players on the outside the opportunity to make plays. If it wasn’t for Harrison taking up multiple bodies, there would be more linemen to block the other defensive players, making their production diminish. A big guy like Harrison is an influence that just can’t be quantified with stats, nor can it be replaced. Keeping Harrison would also be a page out of the playbook of their friends to the northeast. You want to beat the Patriots? All kidding aside about cheating, putting together a team the “Patriot Way” wouldn’t hurt. From 2004-2014, the Patriots only had one season where a defensive player didn’t produce at least seven sacks. From Willie McGinest to Chandler Jones, and everyone in between, the production was there. The pass rushers changed, but the results remained. Who remained the constant in New England? This guy was the constant, Vince Wilfork. He anchored the middle of the Patriots defensive line from 2004-2014, and his teammates on the outside excelled. It is not coincidence. The bodies he occupied in the middle of the line were a huge part of the equation. Vince Wilfork is 6’2″, 325 pounds, making him smaller than Harrison. The numbers don’t like, making Harrison more productive against the run at times than Wilfork. The Jets will be fine with Sheldon Richardson and Leonard Williams along the line, but they won’t be if Damon Harrison walks out the door.
They could have done this under normal circumstances but the circumstances are anything but normal at the moment. I don't think the Jets can do anything but follow the same path they followed with Mo, exercising the 5th year option and then thinking about franchising Richardson if they can't work something out. The Jets path forward at this point may well be franchising Mo this year, exercising the option on Richardson after next year, franchising Richardson in 2018, moving on from both of them in staggered synchronicity. In that scenario locking up Snacks to play alongside Williams seems like a safety move if nothing else.
If we cut Snacks, we should cut Revis too. No reason to pay a top DB $17M for an on-field view of the other team running the ball 30 times for 250 yards every week.
if snacks is looking for 5-6 mil a year that should be easily attainable with a couple of restructures..
Snacks will become an unrestricted free agent if we do nothing. Revis has his entire salary of $17 mil fully guaranteed even if we did cut him.
I think everyone would sign up for that, but apparently he rejected a contract that's 5M a season already.
I don't see how you can in any sense of the way compare Damon Harrison to Vince Wilfork. Wilfork was a monster on all 3 downs, he completely collapsed the pocket and allowed other players to get 1 on 1 match-ups. That article is flawed.
Yeah I thought about that when I posted it but I figured it was still food for thought and perhaps Snacks still has some upside. Maybe if he is allowed to rush the passer with abandon on 3rd down w/o having to think run stop he might find a way to get it done. We've been so overstocked on DL it wouldn't have paid to give him the shot before now. In any event I think he's worth retaining for 6 m if Mac can swing it.
Haven't seen the ability to do that yet at this stage, if he's retained then I would hope he would find a way to do so. If Snacks can take 6M a season, then that would be amazing, but right now he only plays 50% of the snaps ... not worth 7M + on the cap.
I would think $40 mil over six years would do the trick. Our cap hit this year could be as low as $4 mil.
