Cooper has talent but did lose the starting job to someone else this year. I would rather have draft picks. It is irrelevant because the Cardinals are going to give him a shot to start for them next year.
Couldn't the Jets just sign him to 11-12 million next year, and then increase throughout the duration of the contract? Guarantee him a lot to protect from injury.
A first (29th) and a developmental guard who was the former 7th overall pick a couple years ago. I don't know what else more were gonna get for Mo from the team trading for him has to pay him that big contract too and coming off a broken leg .
Maybe maybe not the fact is they gave him every opportunity and was being outplayed so they may look else where. I'm not sure if it's a scheme fit or what but he has struggled there and regardless of others moving on they may not like him specifically anymore.
... except that most people realized that was BS and *surprise* it was ... because he promptly signed with Dallas (who selected him after the 2nd round) and had a very good season.
Except that's false because he wasn't drafted and negotiated his deal as an undrafted free agent just like he wanted.
6 years 72 million isn't gonna do it, Suh 6 years 114 (60 guaranteed) Dareus 6 years 108 (42 guaranteed) Watt 6 years 100( 50 guaranteed) I love u Mo but I'm good, none of those teams already had Richardson or Williams on their roster... A long term deal doesn't make sense
We would trade him because we can't afford to pay him that much. It's that simple. We have something like 24 FAs this off season. Even with quite a few of them being players we probably don't want back, there are still probably at least 4-5 if not 7-8 that the Jets might want to keep, we have to sign our draft picks, and we might want to add some players to address positions of need like RB, TE, RG, RT, OLB, and ILB. Check out the list of Jets FAs, then consider the Jets' team needs, and I think you'll understand.
How many years ago was that, one, two, three? More? Since he's 26, it sounds like more. If that's true and he hasn't developed by now, he's not going to. IMO Phoenix would laugh their butts off getting Mo in exchange for Cooper and a pick. I understand what you're trying to do, and something like that I think would be on the right tract, but imo Cooper is not the right player.
Also, the Cardinals stand to lose their starting guard. They will not be able to replace him with a cheaper or better player than the young guy they recentl drafted in the top 10 overall. They would be nuts to trade him as a throw in on top of a first round pick.
I personally believe this is an awful trade, and it's a copout for not paying Mo. Fans thought we could get a high first rounder, but essentially we are getting the same value for Wilk as we did when we drafted him. This trade, its more-so a first crack at the 2nd round prospects. That would be pretty sad. I don't see the Jets getting equal value for Mo and I think the defense could take a step back potentially if someone doesn't step up.
He got a 3 year - $1.6 mil contract; that's basically league minimum. Anybody who thinks he would have refused to sign if drafted is simply not paying attention. He would have been a 1st rounder; nobody was going to draft him in the 6th or 7th round and then refuse to give him three years at league minimum.
Just throwing scenarios out there, players can get better throughout time and finding a trade partner for Mo isn't going to be easy. You need to find a team with cap space, assets and feel like they need to make a move, not to mention he's coming off an injury. Idk what else we can realistically do plus this draft is reasonably talented at DT not a great one but pretty good.
http://mmqb.si.com/2015/05/15/lael-collins-nfl-draft-dallas-cowboys-murder-investigation This was prior to the NFL declaring he would not be allowed to enter the 2016 draft. Once they declared that, he wanted to be undrafted so he could negotiate his contract. Can you stop pulling shit out of your ass? Whether he was bluffing or not isn't the question. They made the ultimatum and every NFL franchise abided by it to avoid the negative press of it turning ugly OR if he came out weeks later of being guilty of the crime. Go back and think about it. NO NFL FRANCHISE WASTED A DRAFT PICK ON HIM FOR A REASON.
For the record I was the lone idiot that wanted to draft Collins. There are several posts from me about it during the draft. With that being said he will probably retire as a Dallas Cowboy a decade from now. Time to move on from him.
To clarify, I'm not against the player and I wasn't at the time. But when the agent says we won't sign if you draft me, you stay away from that drama.
The DL probably will take a step back, at least initially, but the D could be better as a result. That's the bottom line. We've had Mo, Richardson and Snacks the last 2 years and what has it gotten us? This season we had those three plus Williams and while the D was better statistically than last year, did we make the playoffs? Did they show up and play very well in every game? Could they consistently get off the field on 3rd down? The answer is "no" to all of those questions, and it will continue to be "no" until we upgrade our LB units. There's no realistic way we can keep and pay Mo, Snacks, Richardson and Williams, unless we fill out a lot of the other roster positions with UDFAs and continually turn over most of the rest of the roster for cheap players. The NFL is no longer a running league. I don't care if those 4 guys corporately make the best DL in the history of the NFL, it's not getting us where we need to go, nor will it. We need a D that can get after opposing QBs. We need a better distribution of the cap, and be able to have great play makers at LB and offense. If we had Brick's replacement on hand, he would be cheap for the next 4 seasons, and could cut Brick and give what he would have made to Mo, I would do it. The thing is we don't have Brick's replacement on hand, and it doesn't look like we're going to be able to get him out of this draft, either. It hurts to have to trade him away, but I don't see how we're going to be able to avoid it. If Mac can figure out a way to keep and pay him without hurting another unit or units on the team or putting the team in cap hell a few years down the road, no one will be happier (or more surprised) than me.
I knew there were risks but the police said the kid was not a suspect. I felt that the upside was too good to pass up. I wasn't sure if we could get him to sign after round two so at the time I wanted us to trade down for a very low second rounder.
Of course he wanted to go undrafted (anybody taken in the last two rounds probably wishes they went undrafted); the point is that if he was drafted, he was definitely going to sign. He was bluffing and anyone with common sense and paying attention should have knew it. There was no way he was going to hold out because he was taken in the 6th round (or 5th round, or 7th round) - he would have been offered exactly the same contract he accepted from Dallas and there's no way he was going to leave $500k on the table to sit out a year.
Nah, I wanted Collins too. I thought he was a first round pick. I would've taken him with the Jets pick if Cooper were gone. To me, he was hands down the best lineman in the draft.
