Other options we could consider article

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  1. APK 8

    APK 8 Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't Brees be a retread by definition? And if cutting Ferguson occurs, who is going to protect his blindside? It won't be a top pick because the original poster already has that as a QB of the future. Heck, if we have to trade for Brees we won't have a 1st round pick as that's what New Orleans will demand. If Brees gets cut, then to accommodate Brees' salary you will not have the cap room to sign a left tackle with any talent. And if we don't have a good LT in place, Drew Brees will not even think about singing with the Jets. That would be suicide.

    Keep your 1st round pick. Use it on a left tackle. We are going to be selecting somewhere between 10th and 22nd. There likely will not be a can't miss QB at that point of the draft. Let Fitzpatrick continue to mentor Bryce Petty. That's our future at the QB position.
     
  2. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Johnny Football seems to be unappreciated by Cleveland even though he has played well.

    He could be the answer to our problems if Cleveland goes QB in round one.
     
  3. Acad23

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    Say what?

    That would be the worst thing we could possibly do.
     
  4. Jets-N-Terps

    Jets-N-Terps Well-Known Member

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    It would be great if this were true, but the more they change the rules, the more popular the game has become.
    People love stars and more specifically star players in this country
     
  5. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I think you're vastly underrating the fan base and amount of money the sport brings in. Teams can sell 45 out of 65,000 seats and they're still grossing a disgusting amount of revenue based on ticket sales and concessions and parking.

    Just because it's not aesthetically pleasing to you doesn't mean they're losing this incredible amount of money.

    The NFL is very much alive and kicking and the fans are not dwindling. Maybe once they turn it into flag football you'll have a point. Are you or I going to stop watching Jets games or the playoffs because we don't have an elite quarterback? No.

    4/6 of the past Superbowl participants have had better defenses than quarterbacks.

    An elite quarterback gives you a better chance to be a playoff team with a shit roster. A team still needs a defense that's going to make plays. Look at how young and athletic New England is on that defensive side of the ball.

    Balance is still the key to the NFL, along with a top 15 quarterback. Not many sports allow you to win a championship without a top 15 player at an important position.
     
  6. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    I actually think as this week has gone on that perhaps the generalized center of posters' pov's here is too negative. After all the Jets are not getting blown out in these losses, and points differential is a significant if not commanding metric as stats go. In other words the Jets have not been that far off in their losses. If the CS can make a positive impression on these team, with better playcalling by the O, game management, holding players accountable, perhaps 9-7 is achievable.

    Now that I have that optimism aside, though, I have to say next year is not looking as bright as it might have. Here's why:

    OL. The fact is the Jets have been very lucky given all of Tanny's awful picks since his second draft that Ferguson and Mangold have been so dependable and quality since Tanny's first draft. Add in how Mawae preceded Nick and we as Jet fans have gotten used to Center being a dependable position, and Ferguson being on average above average through his whole time with the team. This season it is clear we are near the end of that era. How near? I have to think it more likely than not, barring a major renegotiation, that Ferguson will be gone this off season. There's no one on the roster now who is an obvious replacement.

    That being the case, the Jets will either not be competitive on the OL next year, or will have to look at finding a new LT as a MAJOR need to be met in the off season. And that doesn't begin to address the below average players on the right side of the line. Even if Mangold is back and healthy, the OL next year is a major concern.

    Add that on top of the other areas that are underperforming already, and I could see this team being weaker next year than it is now. I suppose if the Jets somehow pull a rabbit out of a hat, it might be different. But right now, I don't see the Jets on an upward swing.

    The problem is that all those poor drafts by Tanny and Idzik are just too much to overcome. The core of the team is aging, and there are not enough Wilkersons and Williams to overcome that. Maybe Pryor, but who else?
     
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  7. PulseJet

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    This is going to be a big issue for the Jets. They have alot of starters in their 30's, and some talented rookies and first/second year players (Williams, Pryor, Mauldin, Marcus Williams, Sheldon Richardson) but there is an absence of 4-6 year players (in their prime) that can be considered decent starters. I count only 5: (Mo, Decker, Carpenter, Gilchrist, and Skrine.) Only Mo is home grown and Decker is likely at the tail end of his prime.

    The Jets will need a youth movement on the OL, they have no young talented RB's or WR/TE's (unless Devin Smith wakes up and Amaro gets healthy) and of course QB is a big question mark. They will need to focus heavily on the offense in the draft and in free agency.

    Defense I think is OK for a few years. They need to reach an agreement with Mo, and I think the secondary with Revis, Pryor, Skrine, Gilchrist and Williams has enough there to remain decent for a few years. Guys like Jaiquan Jarrett, Antonio Allen, Rontez Miles, Macdougle, even Millner can potentially contribute.
     
  8. Big Blocker

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    On D, with a couple of breaks they might be okay. Between Milliner and Williams they hopefully can cover for a departing Cromartie. On the DL it might cost them big bucks but they should be able to keep enough if not everyone this off season, and there the Jets seem lucky enough to have Douzable as a solid bench player who might be in the mix if need be as a starter. If need be.

    Linebacker is more problematic. Harris should be fine, but for the other 3 starters who entered this year, all 3 will/should be gone, Coples already gone. That means for one that Mauldin is key to the answer, but there's still the other two. Imo Davis is clearly not getting it done.

    Still with a decent dose of luck as you say the D might be ok.

    It's the offense that will enter the off season with some gaping holes.
     
  9. James Hasty

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    If we focused on LB and OL our QB problem might just solve itself.
     
  10. PulseJet

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    It would be nice if they went heavy on offense in the first round of the draft for once. Particularly if its a weapon, a centerpiece RB maybe?
     
  11. kevmvp

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    I would love to get Brees, even Stafford. I just don't think it's realistic.

    Our best bet is probably the draft or trying to find a hidden gem on somebody elses bench.
     
  12. 74

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    Ricky Stanzi. Lol.
     
  13. SOJAZ

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    I am all for getting a top flight QB but IMHO we really need OL help 1st.... LT, RT RG. WE need faster LB that can cover then think getting someone like Brees.... BTW - I saw Foles play at UOA and he is good, I say if we could get him do it he will surprise alot of folks.
     
  14. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle 1992 Rookie of the Year

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    not a big fan of RBs in the first round, but if Ezekiel Elliott is there for the Jets pick, he will be hard to pass up. He would be a great draft pick for this organization.

    Next years draft is going to be a great one for Offensive linemen so I don't think you need to take one in round 1.

    Get a playmaker in round 1: A RB like Elliott, coverage MLB like Jaylon Smith or Myles Jack, or an athletic pass rusher... (obviously it depends on where we pick)
     
  15. Big Blocker

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    More likely OL than RB, I would think. You can get an RB in FA.

    As it stands now, assuming no Qb is there to take in the first round, and assuming with his contract Ferguson is gone, and does not redo his contract, I can see LT being the top need for this team in the draft. I mean the top.

    Editing here, in light of Nagle's post, and again I do not follow college football enough to have an opinion, I suppose hte one exception on going D in the first round would be a top rank pass rusher at OLB. Yeah, I could see that, absolutely.

    But I am skeptical a second round OL draftee will step right in as the starter at LT.
     
  16. TwoHeadedMonster

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    There is a point where it changes over, though. I have never personally cared for NASCAR, but I know a lot of people who were obsessed with it in the 70's-80's-90's, but who now watch the NFL on Sundays instead, not because they love football, but because NASCAR rule changes (I don't know enough about them to discuss in any detail) have made it unwatchable for long-time fans.

    The passing-game obsessed NFL has not diminished my watching the Jets play, but I used to watch three games every Sunday + MNF, and I used to pay for NFL network. Now I watch the Jets game and that's it.

    Maybe my case is anecdotal, and means nothing. Maybe for every old fart like me that they lose, the NFL picks up 5 guys who love Fantasy Football. Or maybe, as happened with NASCAR, there is a tipping point--change one too many rules, and there's a mass exodus.

    Most likely--means nothing.
     

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