Actually, that wasn't what I said at all. Richardson and Wilkerson are very good pass rushers, Williams might be one in the future, and Coples might be if he played his natural position. But they are not being used properly in our system (whether under Rex or Bowles). For all those guys, their ideal natural position is a 3-technique nose tackle in a 4-3, where they could be as disruptive as Aaron Donald now or Warren Sapp in the past. So obviously you can't have 4 of them on the same team and still utilize their full potential. Using them in a 3-4 is wasting their potential, because in that system, D-Linemen are just big bodies that take up space and blockers, and their athleticism and quickness gets wasted to a large degree. You can't fix it by simple moving to 4 men fronts either as I mentioned before.
Fact is we're going into week 9 and Mo leads the way in sacks with 5 and Harris next with two lowly sacks. Leo Williams has .5 a sack and 9 paltry tackles. It is fucking pathetic to be honest, and I wouldn't give anyone money besides Mo Wilkerson, he can't do it all and he's being doubled routinely. Snacks, Richardson, and Williams have to step up. Mo is 12th in the league in sacks then we don't have anyone in the top 40 in this vaunted Jets offense.
Thank you Mr nyjet....don't always have time to think things through...but always post from the heart!!!
No, somebody DOESN'T get it. We run a 3-4 defense. Which means we have 3 wide bodies on the line occupying 5 O-Linman, which (in turn) frees up the field for the 4 LBers to reak havoc. Expecting a 3-4 D-Lineman to 'rush the passer' and rack up Sack Stats means you don't understand the role of a 3-4 D-Lineman.
Yes we have, but you have to agree putting a forth lineman out there made in the mold of a 3-4 D-lineman does NOT make them lose 30 pounds and increase their speed by 50%. All that does is take a LBer off the field. You know, the position that's SUPPOSED to feed off a 3-4 defense.
It's blatantly obvious we need to draft a true OLB in the draft high, not a DE convert to OLB. A purebred OLB.
We've needed a good one for years, but I really don't know how many come in the draft each year. Is it even possible to get a Lawrence Taylor any more? Or are we more likely to come away with a Vernon Gholston? We'll probably be drafting in the lower half, which makes it even more of a crap shoot. And teams that HAVE an effective outside pass rusher would NEVER set him free (unless he's 50 yrs old and named Jason Taylor).
This is where it's at-- we have a slew of guys who are stellar at being the wide bodies on the line occupying the 5 O-Linemen, but we have poor or very old linebackers who take advantage of being free by.....stumbling around slowly?
And with Abraham we rushed 4 and played coverage 90% of the time under Herm. Since Rex was hired we blitz probably more than any team in the league. We start to go with 4 man fronts the past 8 quarters and we literally haven't had even a quarterback pressure in 6. We need a third linebacker on the field and it needs to not be Coples or Pace. They show absolutely no versatility and no speed on the edge. Reilly/Mauldin at least give hope on the edge. Teams see that six man box and check to a run immediately and the Raiders looked good running the ball just like the Eagles did. Demarco Davis is just a terrible tackler plain and simple. He doesn't break down in the open field and runners use his speed against him as he ALWAYS over pursues. I wish we would've kept Joe Mays in hindsight or at least get Erin Henderson on the field. Enough is enough. I'm hoping Bowles doesn't fall into this I need to play veterans crap that Rex did. If we get gashed in the first half this week he needs to make some changes in terms of Davis, Pace, Cromartie. Everyone's getting on Marcus Williams for poor tackling. News flash he's an undersized slower corner playing safety. It's similar to playing Cromartie at safety with more effort in the tackling department; it's going to be bad.
Can we just move Davis to OLB? They guy's a real athlete, but he is always making mistakes-- put him on the weak side and tell him to go get the QB. Make his decision tree branch-free. It's not like we're lining up with 4 linebackers very often anyway, regardless of front. Maybe if Davis and Mauldin were both rushing from the outside we could get some pass rush. Either the O-line has to spread out to protect the edges, which allows our superior D-line to bust the pocket, or our D-line forces them to stay tight, and the LBs hit the QB. Maybe I'm crazy.
If it wasnt broke ya dont fix it. We dont have great D anymore IMO Stats and the missed tackles dont lie Fix it Todd
I think Reilly has a pretty decent motor, and I think his pass-rush skills might be a little more defined then Mauldin. Mauldin's burst off the LOS is bar none way better, but he needs to improve his pass-rush technique. During the preseason, I saw 2 players that were relentless - but they caused a decent # of penalties. That could get better with experience. They both at this stage should get more snaps then Coples and even Pace. Gotta get them both more reps.
The outside pressure was coming mainly from CB blitzes, often out of the slot. We've gotten away from that the last couple of weeks. Maybe because Pryor is out and Bowles doesn't want to blitz his coverage guys without his SS in the middle to keep things clean?
Drafting a linebacker always scares me. So easy to completely wiff and draft a bust. This is one of those positions that seems one of the most difficult to evaluate.
Because there are still not alot of college teams running 3-4. So you have to try to project what 4-3 tweeners aee going to be good. Its like trying to project a spread qb into a pro system. Theres going to be alot if misses
This team simply can not move forward defensively into the elite class without a pass rushing line backer. This has to be priority number two behind QB next off season. That said, as much of a disaster the last game was and as much as I don't expect to be contenders this season I'm still cautiously optimistic. Good safeties, good corners, good D-line, just missing that one piece on defense. Wow..this is all very well established and I shouldn't have wasted my time writing such a redundant post. At least you all had to read it and your collective time wasted is far worse than my time writing it.
It's been that way since the Mangini years. Sadly, over the years, the best rushing LB on the Jets has been Harris and he plays inside
1. Jets have good pieces to run 3-4 exceptionally well. Wilkerson and Richardson on both end will make things very tough for the opposing defense. 2. While Harrison is a very good run stopping NT, he is very lacking in passing situation. I don't expect him to rush the passer - that's not what NT does - but he should be collapsing the pocket during the passing downs. He is not able to do that however. [We all know the breed of Kris Jenkins don't just grow on trees, but his role in passing game is rather dismal.] 3. After that - it's all LBs. Jets don't possess a legitimate threat at LB, and that shows. 1 more effective OLB behind Wilkerson will make a major difference. A smart, high-flying ILB will make the defense even better; I don't want that ILB to cover the TE. I want him to rush the passer straight up the gut. I don't think Jets current roster has anyone viable or legitimate in LB corps.
