All we've been begging for is average QB play and folks are complaining?

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  1. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    Wow so wrong. So glad we disagree on player evaluation.

    I don't have to like anything.

    Geno was dogshit compared to Fitz last year.

    By any objective measure.

    Of course if you're a Geno fan, he was awesome.

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    You can't talk reason to Geno fans.

    It's like talking with a Tebow fan.

    All he does is WIN!! Lol.

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    The pathetic thing is he keeps touting Geno, who has actually shown he sucks, and he says Carr sucks who has actually shown to be a better QB with his arrow pointing straight up.

    Carr was better in his rookie year on a worse team than Geno was in his second year on a better team.

    It's amazing how puppy love blinds some fans.

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    did you smoke bath salts before you started posting this evening?
     
  6. JStokes

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    I was going to do an objective stat by stat comparison to illustrate why this dude was bat shit crazy but he posted the links.

    He can go look up for himself why he's a fool.

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    We still don't win that game without it. How can you even say that?

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    Ok, fine. QBR isn't an overwhelmingly meanginful statistic. So, my question to you is . . . WHAT IS? Find me the meaningful statistics where Geno was definitively better than Fitz last year and then tell me how those statistics, when assessed within the context of their respective overall performances, result in your conclusion that Geno was better than Fitz last year.

    Your argument seems to be a confused confluence of "yeah, but Fitz sucked too!!!!" and "yeah, but Fitz had a better team around him." The problem here is, while arguably true, neither one of those two points have any bearing on whether or not Fitz outperformed Geno last year.
     
  9. zace

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    Except Fitz got BENCHED last season.

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    Yeah the pillar of information you are. You don't know a thing about Fitzpatrick career. Yet you're all over his dick. Dude he got BENCHED for Ryan frigging Mallet, so how fucking good was he? Oh but let's ignore that.

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    And Geno was the only qb last year to sport a perfect one thru a game so? What's your point? All you're gonna reply with is Geno sucks. Not a real answer so don't waste time unless you have one.

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  12. JStokes

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    GENO got benched!

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    Ok, and Geno got benched for a washed up turnover machine who openly admitted he didn't even properly prepare for his team's game a few weeks earlier. So what? Again, what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
     
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    I don't give a shit about his career.

    LAST year he was miles better than Geno.

    Look at your own stats you posted.

    What a joke.

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    Hate repeating this because it gives some credence to the feat but that perfect game was against a team who had gotten bounced from the playoffs the week before, had their bags packed and their tee times for Monday set.

    Geno also posted a ZERO POINT ZERO.

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    You know what I'm a warn you one last time about how you talk to me. Get that shit in check buddy.

    You play whatever side of the fence fits you're need, don't play both sides. And talk last season when it works for you but ignore it when it doesn't fit your view.

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    So wait it doesn't matter when you don't want it too? Ya know what stokes go sit on a hard one?

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  18. slimjasi

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    LOL, come on, bro. Look, what people have essentially written in this thread is that Fitz was/is/and always has been better than Geno by virtually every objective statistical metric used to evaluate quarterbacks (last year included). You don't really have anything to refute that basic truth.

    If you are going to argue for wanting to start Geno over Fitzpatrick, you would be much better off pointing out that:

    1) Geno was supposedly having a very good camp and was considered the unquestioned starter

    2) Geno (arguably) has much more physical talent than Fitz

    3) Geno (arguably) has a much higher ceiling than Fitz.

    Point 1 is a fact, most people would probably agree with point 2, and point 3 is highly debatable (but, at least, there is a case to be made).

    To sum it up for you, although I don't necessarily agree with it, you certainly CAN argue that Geno has a brighter future going forward than Fitz does. However, you most certainly CAN NOT argue that Geno HAS BEEN better than Fitz (the objective standards by which football fans, analysts, teams, and scouts assess quarterbacks reveal the absurdity of that statement)
     
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    Ok I'll do it.

    Comp % Fitz 63.1 > Geno 59.7

    YPG Fitz 207 > 180

    TD Fitz 17 > Geno 13

    INT Fitz 8 > Geno 13

    YPA Fitz 8.0 > Geno 6.9

    QB Rate Fitz 95.3 > Geno 77.5

    Wins Fitz 6 > Geno 3

    Losses Fitz 6 > Geno 10

    Sacks Fitz 21 > Geno 28

    Show me objective stats that shows Geno was even CLOSE to as good as Fitz.

    Please. None of your bullshit about talent and teams and scheme and length of service.

    LAST year Fitz was the superior QB to Geno by EVERY objective measure.

    Prove me wrong.

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