Revis is solid

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by DaBallhawk, Jun 24, 2015.

  1. DaBallhawk

    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2005
    Messages:
    5,566
    Likes Received:
    2,075


    Considering Revis shadows #1 receivers each week I'm not sure how Sherman, who doesn't even shadow #1 receivers and hasn't had a single season (let alone 3) with a sub 42% catch rate, can still claim he's the best.
     
  2. Jetaho

    Jetaho Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2009
    Messages:
    5,141
    Likes Received:
    2,311
    Sherman can claim all he wants, but it doesn't mean he's earned or entitled to it.
     
    JETS1116, ajax and Royal Tee like this.
  3. Walt White

    Walt White Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2014
    Messages:
    6,681
    Likes Received:
    4,138
    Bad to the bone...
     
  4. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    22,232
    Likes Received:
    12,246
    Sherman is the better play-maker IMO, but Revis will more than likely shut down your #1 receiver by following him all over the field
     
  5. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2003
    Messages:
    17,747
    Likes Received:
    1,579
    Dam... that's actually a pretty ridiculous stat
     
  6. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    12,286
    Likes Received:
    3,954
    This. It's also a matter of system. Revis and Sherman aren't deployed in the same manner so it's really a difficult comparison to make, cornerback wise.

    I think any team in the NFL would be thrilled to have either of them.
     
    JetsNation06 and 101GangGreen101 like this.
  7. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2005
    Messages:
    15,242
    Likes Received:
    6,100
    wow....so Revis fails to get the job done 42%+ of the time! Wish I could get $16M/yr by f-ing up almost half the time. DAMN!
     
  8. HAYN

    HAYN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2012
    Messages:
    1,180
    Likes Received:
    345
  9. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2009
    Messages:
    8,993
    Likes Received:
    5,634
  10. Pocket Jet

    Pocket Jet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2011
    Messages:
    1,138
    Likes Received:
    511
  11. Jets69

    Jets69 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2013
    Messages:
    4,926
    Likes Received:
    3,499
    Bet that's what Geno says in the mirror after his games
     
    Innocenti, PabloJa, NYJetsO12 and 3 others like this.
  12. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2004
    Messages:
    33,956
    Likes Received:
    33,100
    One of the larger reasons Sherman is so effective stems somewhat from teams shying away from targeting his side of the field. Look at Green Bay on opening night. They didn't throw at him once. You never give yourself a chance at beating him if you don't at least throw some bullshit his way every once in a while to keep the entire defense honest. Every team that plays the Seahawks need to go back and watch the Chargers game tape versus them.

    It's not like he can burned, but he can give up yardage like every corner in this league. You need to attack him laterally. He's not going to be burned on go routes, corner or posts or even double moves deep because he's too physically imposing and has too good of ball skills. Send lots of crossers, slants, and make Sherman move his hips side to side. He's too big of a guy to be that effective covering the Welker's of the world.

    That's what makes Revis so effective. He can cover anyone in any slot on the field but at the same time teams are going to throw at him more because they refuse to completely abandon their number one target. Teams just keep the number one target away from Sherman's side.

    Someone said it before though that any team in the league would kill to have either of them. They effect every game plan an offense has. The career body of work for #1 probably goes to Sherman having two Superbowl visits and his defense demolishing the #1 passing offense in NFL history, along with a DPOY even though Revis was robbed of one.

    Give me either though really.
     
    dawinner127 likes this.
  13. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2009
    Messages:
    8,993
    Likes Received:
    5,634
    Correct, and why I included the lame *sarcasm* :rolleyes: emoticon next to the "getting burned" comment (meaning Revis is still good money).
     
  14. pclfan

    pclfan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2013
    Messages:
    5,223
    Likes Received:
    1,053
    I don't know if Revis re-signed with us because of the money or that he considers himself a Jet. But he wouldn't have come back if not for the contract. If equal offers from other teams not sure what he'd have done. He wanted that 16 mil very bad. But in terms of his play on the field. He says he's better but physically he's older and off of serious injuries. But if we were going to overpay he's the guy I'd have done it for. He will bring great leadership, knowledge and his smarts will compensate if he's lost a step or two. I love having him back.
     
  15. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    22,232
    Likes Received:
    12,246
    Seattle's defense was pretty beat up that game IIRC. I think Kam left that game and was injured prior to that game. Bobby Wagner wasn't 100% either. Gates definitely took them to school that game though, that was a great game.
     
  16. DaBallhawk

    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2005
    Messages:
    5,566
    Likes Received:
    2,075
    Sherman is a system corner. Just like Asomugha. Revis is elite no matter how you use him, no matter what he does, no matter what defense you put him in. Sherman will struggle without elite safety play, he will struggle if you throw the ball to him and challenge him (Derek Carr abused him in the preseason). Give me Revis all day. We had the same discussion when Asomugha was playing, he was a Sherman clone. Same size, skillset, same talent, same preferences, same long arms, same one trick pony. You remove him from that defense he falls apart.
     
  17. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2004
    Messages:
    33,956
    Likes Received:
    33,100
    I completely disagree. You can say the opposite in that Sherman makes the safeties lives easy. He also plays on the same side wit Chancellor who doesn't have too much range going back due to his gigantic size (6'4", 230). He's a downhill hitter. We all like to romanticize Revis as if he's the only great corner in the league yet 20 years from now people will remember the DPOY, and back to back Superbowls that Sherman lead the Seahawks to along with the dismantling of Peyton in one, not the analytics that say Revis is just as good.

    Asomugha was a product of a system that had Fabian Washington at the other corner and some guys named Stuart Schweigert and Michael Huff at safety. After Asomugha proved he can catch the ball in 2006, they ripped the Raiders defense apart by not even bothering to throw at him since he was the only decent player on the field. Sherman is one of many good players on the field and still forces teams to throw away from him.
     
  18. Charlie Kelly

    Charlie Kelly Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2014
    Messages:
    2,943
    Likes Received:
    1,006
    Sherman never won DPOY
     
  19. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2004
    Messages:
    33,956
    Likes Received:
    33,100
    You are correct, my mistake.
     
  20. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2003
    Messages:
    28,421
    Likes Received:
    29,651
    PabloJa and Ptflea2 like this.

Share This Page