New Offense

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  1. FlaJet

    FlaJet Well-Known Member

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    Nope it's just an opinion and a feeling.
     
  2. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    I can tolerate turnovers just as long as he's moving the offense and leading scoring drives.
     
  3. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    I guess we will see.
     
  4. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    We just have to hope Gailey and Bowles get on the same page.

    As far as Geno is concerned, I don't see it as a big deal what Gailey said about him starting but we have to hope that Gailey doesn't become married to the idea of making Geno his miracle working product. If Fitz is the better player throughout camp then Fitz needs to start and I think that's how Bowles views it. I hope Gailey does too.
     
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  5. FlaJet

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    I really hope he turns it around but I really have very little faith in it happening. If he turns it around it would be a super positive thing for our O. As U said we shall see..
     
  6. Walt White

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    Felt the same way when I clicked on a Brian Costello article once.
     
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  7. boozer32

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    You left out regular season too. So what your saying is we should just suck it up and accept the mass interceptions lol.
     
  8. The 1985er

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    If you are expecting him to NEVER throw another pick or fumble the ball ever again. Then you have unrealistic expectations. What I'm looking for is stark improvements in his decision making, consistently moving the ball, and leading scoring drives. I want him to play loose and relaxed and confident in what he is doing. I'll tolerate mistakes if the good is outweighing the bad. Afterall he is still a young qb.
     
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  9. Hobbes3259

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    Limiting his mistakes should be a goal of the CS.

    Short open throwing lanes, quick/ and or no decision passes....especially early.
     
  10. Zach

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    That's counterproductive.

    If we have to spot a time when Geno is allowed to make mistake, that's NOW. He should try various things - and see what works and what doesn't in what circumstances. He won't know without trying.
     
  11. Charlie Kelly

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    Spoken like a true Sanchez apologist
     
  12. ukjetsfan

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    You know, there's a very easy way to make sure he never makes another mistake for the Jets...

    I'm just saying. I hope he sorts his head out and gives us productive play this season, but I'm not expecting him to. But having this, a limitation of his mistakes, as the primary strategy in his third year, would be an admission of defeat.
     
  13. Frenbar

    Frenbar Well-Known Member

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    Forget about above average. I think we would all be thrilled if we could just be an average offense, rather then below average.
     
  14. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. An average offense this year most likely has us contending for the playoffs. But how far we could go in the playoffs depends on if the offense can show signs of being above average like they did in 2010.

    All I mean is when you run a spread there is a limit to how much success you can have. Sooner or later you run into a good defense and they make you look like a college offense.
     
  15. Hobbes3259

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    I agree with that to a point...

    But, must learn walk, before learn run, Daniel-san..
     
  16. Hobbes3259

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    WTF does Sanchez have to do with this...Unless of course you're a Schottenheimer apologist.
     
  17. pdxdrew

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    Is it too early to wonder just how many points we will average with this new offense?
     
  18. Every coach claims they are going to cater an offense to their players...it's just part of the vanilla modern press relations of NFL.Hell,that's exactly what Marty said he was gonna do before he fell in love w/ Geno at his pro day.To be honest, I'm not sure Marty was doing exactly what he wanted to do w/ Rex over his back. Granted WAY different personnel in Philly w/ Reid involved but the offense we saw MM in on HAD a lot of elements that suited Geno well.

    But instead we saw the same outdated conservative short passing game(and offense for that matter...aside from a few small tweaks) as w/ Schotty & Sparano.That wasn't a system that fit Geno. In fact...it was likely the exact OPPOSITE of what he needs. He's not a sophisticated game manager...rightly or wrongly sorry Rex he isn't Jim Mcmahon. Geno is an athlete & a thrower of the football.It's not always gonna be proficient or precise w/ him at the helm, but he can make any throw & can really hurt you w/ his legs. You can absolutely build an offense around those skills.You don't ask him to make complicated reads or complete the whole route tree...you maximize his strength of making big plays downfield.Keep it simple & low risk. W/ the weapons the jets now have on the outside this can create an effective, productive offense w/a good running game,which the Jets almost always have. Yes Geno will always have a few bonehead turnovers b/c that is his nature..and yes he is limited in the red zone as he is better at "throwing to space" than he is tight windows...but you can adjust playcalling to fit that. Maybe you get more creative w/ running plays/personnel, less decision making more "set" pass plays in which Geno has 1 progression, a safety valve & trhen he either takes off or throws it away.

    I do think Chan runs the type of offense Geno can fit in.Spread the field, create spacing & find the best match-up.That's Chan's game.I was initially excited about the prospect of Amaro in this offense.He played in a dumbed down version of this offense in college(at least the one Chan ran in Buffalo) and caught over 100 balls in 1 season...maybe not the flashiest but a complete match-up nightmare.I was perplexed to hear that he was mainly playing "H-back".Amaro certainly has a lot of the skills needed for a traditional H-back role..but I don't recall ever seeing an H-back in a Chan Gailey scheme. Bowles also said Amaro is the #1 "Z"..which is really the role he had such success w/ in college & was what I had envisioned as his role that I was really excited about. I guess we shall see.
     
  19. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Precisely.

    And when you can switch from Kerley, a slot player, to Smith a 9 guy....as a 3rd WR......you should be able to give G.Smith some wide open looks....as you spread the defense from side to side, or vertically.
     
  20. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    Not never throw just keep the interceptions under 30. I think some here have unrealistic expectation of Geno. Just look at his home game against Buffalo. He threw 3 interceptions in the first quarter. Geno is a knucklehead and there is a reason he dropped in the draft. Expecting him to miraculously turn it around is comical. If he showed any kind of progress previously I would feel confident. But we had a good offensive coordinator last year in MM who's system was extremely quarterback-friendly and he stunk it up.
     

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