Down 2-1 to Tim Lincecum. No way the Mets score two more or even if they did, Niese would find a way to give the lead away. This game is over. For all intent and purposes, this season is over. Thanks Sandy Alderson... For nothin.....
He's the second best player on the team right now. Also, anyone else impressed by the Giants defense? They make the Mets look like a AA team.
Sandy was quoted in Newsday today saying how difficult it is at this point in the season to make a deal. Maybe difficult for him to but if you have the will to get better it can be done. Newsday also mentioned the 8.8 mil the Brewers still owe Ramirez for 2015. When asked about basically Ramirez without specifically mentioning him by name he mentioned one of the factors is the cost. Newsday also speculated that the Mets would expect the Brewers to pay most of that themselves. Well here we go again. Inaction at it's worst. Ps Ramirez though hitting only .213 is known as a great 2nd half hitter.
I saw Sandy talk about it on SNY. He basically said don't expect much to happen anytime soon. I don't see Ramirez as a good pick up and doubt Sandy would acquire him at any point, but you never know. I'm gonna be surprised if much changes at all anywhere throughout the organization. Sandy has been selling the 'in contention' stuff for a while to keep fans interested.. He even talked about that side of the business of baseball in the Conference Call, explaining why teams weren't making early deals. Selling hope for the Coupons is part of his job description
Its not difficult if money wasnt so tight for the owners. If a team like the Dodgers , Yankees , Red Sox , Angels or even a mid-level payroll team had a glaring need they would go out and get something done. Its not like the Mets play in Pittsburgh. The money should not be this tight for a NY based team in a sport with no salary cap. How the MLB hasnt forced the Wilpons to sell by this point is ridiculous. I can understand not wanting to give up prospects. Thats fine. But getting someone like Ramirez would be strictly a salary dump for the Brewers. We wouldnt have to send them shit in return. Im not saying Ramirez or Zobrist would change so much on this team but atleast they are players that should be able to hold down playing everyday. Something Campbell and Tejada cant. Big market teams would look at that 8 million due and laugh at it because they know it could eventually lead to a increase in ticket sales due to the larger chance of being in contention late in the season.
First I'm sure you'd all agree: the Mets are a New York franchise, not a small market team. They shouldn't have a bottom five budget. Which like Irish says doesn't mean you have to go out and make insane signings like the Angels. But your fans expect a major league product which means guys who can at least hit their weight. The Mets are getting shut out 7 out of 9 innings consistently and the first half of the game they can barely hit anybody. There is no way the Brewers are going to eat that entire contract of Ramirez. Ok negotiate and try to reduce the financial hit but you have to make a deal. And if you're trading out of weakness ok, sometimes you have to do something to save a season. Personally I think the players are expecting their front office to show some life and give them a better chance to win. If they continue to do nothing your players will correctly lose any confidence in management.
Yeah, it sucks. I think Sandy would've done more so far but for the Coupons. I was pissed for a time when it became apparent which direction they were headed. But I'm resigned to the fact that this is a long term, complete organizational, rebuild. I'm betting it's gonna pay off in the long run. Plus, the injuries have set them back. When you see the success of SF, and KC, the great St. L organization, you know the Coupons are all for that, and that's not helping the cause to spend. Btw, fuck Aremis Ramirez. We don't need him in anyway. He's finished.
I agree with that. As frustrating as its been and in some ways still is , I do think the next 5 years are going to be very good. There are some decent available bats that are going to be free agents in the offseason that would cost $$ but allow us to improve without trading away our pitching. But the way baseball is right now its hard to say "wait til next year". Outside of St Louis and San Fran there really arent any above average teams in the league. I think the Nats will eventually get it together and pull away with our division but who's the competition for the 2nd Wild Card assuming the Dodgers and Giants both make the playoffs? Pittsburgh? Chicago? San Diego? No reason why we cant sneak into a wild card game and maybe make a little run.
You don't give away five seasons to build for possible good five seasons. No guarantees this team will ever be good. Of course players can leave too (esp if the Mets refuse to pay them) so there's no way you are assured of a future of having quality teams if these players end up being good. Plus it is five seasons under Sandy and the team after a good start is under .500 probably since May. So for Jets fans who are so impatient and wanted to fire the GM for not spending money etc. after two years. Why should Sandy get a decade. As for Ramirez, he's probably not finished. He had a decent season last year (I think with some injuries: he played about 130 games). And is famous for being a good second half. There is no way you can compare Ramirez to Sandy's Vegas rejects, you know the ones he keeps bringing up and sending down. Plus there's a lot of other fish in the ocean not just him. Plenty of deals to be made despite his excuses.
Yeah, that's the thing. It's amazing to me how steadfast Sandy is in the long term view. He just doesn't reach for anything, and he's patient as all hell. And how he holds firm in front of the media. That tells me he's got the Coupons behind him Hopefully they hang tough and he does something to try and get them over the top. But I wouldn't expect anything major... in the short term anyway.
Well the pitching is setup for the next 5 years. As good as the rotation is now it could be great next season. And considering they've pretty much already given up the last 5 seasons already its easier to look at it for me. If it was 5 years from today I could understand the Sandy smashing. But at this point he's already done about 90 percent of the greasy work. The Dickey and Beltran trades plus the past Omar drafts have set up us well right now. But like the Jets , the GM is only as good as his owners checkbook. We love Mike Mac right now because Woody gave him a blank check. If Sandy was given the same freedom I think we would all look at him differently.
I'm not a fan of Sandy. He's obviously the guy the owners wanted because he can underspend with a straight face. But when he has spent money his signings haven't been good ones. Grandy is on a five year deal and looks like a bad signing. Not Jason Bay bad but no way he is worth his contract. There's plenty of mid level non expensive players he could have signed in the offseason. He finally gets rid of den Decker and Nieuwenheis (his Vegas ping pong balls for the past several years) but replaces them with guys who are worse. So I give Sandy no countenance. His excuses piss me off.
I never got excited about the Grandy signing. And never thought it would make any big difference for them. I viewed it for what it was: A signing of a well known player to keep fan interest. While Sandy treads water waiting for the Farm system to take shape, and then start to feed the big league club. If there's one thing that people should be pissed at it is the selling of false hope. Sandy talking about the playoffs and the post season before this year was just that. But I don't blame him, I blame the Coupons. It was blatant. And I'm not even upset by it. But I was. I like Sandy...I can't stand the Coupons. I just can't sit here and hate our owners anymore. It's too sickening anymore. I'm hanging my hat on Sandy...and with any luck MacCaggnan
Good organizations like the Cardinals don't have to go into rebuilding modes and throw away at least a half a decade. They can rebuild and be competitive at the same time. And without spending ridiculous money (STL spends $121 mil as compared to the Mets 101 mi for 2015). http://deadspin.com/2015-payrolls-and-salaries-for-every-mlb-team-1695040045. So to me these five or ten years plans are an excuse for incompetency. Sandy is not a good GM. His teams are way under .500 since he took over. And again his signings have been terrible.
But you think Aremis Ramirez is something he should do. He's dreck The Mets have no where near the stability of St. L.. St. L has a system that is feeding them for a long time now. Sandy had shit when he got here, but some cryin bitch Coupons claiming poverty. He's not setting the budget. Why would he? It's not his money. If the Mets start to accomplish sustained competitiveness your argument ends. If they don't you knew Sandy was incompetent. Give me statistics and ratings of the Minor League system, and then tie in the incompetency excuses I will be shocked if anything happens anytime soon to Sandy.
