Intelligent and reasonable! Some guy who calls himself "Golden Showers!" Give me a break. Sure if you want to hang out with the lunatic fringe that's your business.
It's obvious that even though I do believe what I'm saying: that Brady should get a suspension but no overkill (2 games and a quarter mil) I have no allies on this issue. But I believe I'm right. And don't care what that bully Stokes says. It's amazing how close minded Jets fans are. If you're not irrational and against something we hate you're all of a sudden the enemy. What a bunch of haters.
I looked through it briefly via the index. And read key points. I'm not a speed reader and I couldn't take the whole thing. It's just too boring. 240 plus pages of drivel. But I'm sure you did (since you don't have a life). I'm not going to read it (how do you like that). It's not an important document plus I read a number of articles about it which summarized it. I would assume that almost 100% of Jets fans did the same thing. I think we know the basics although people like you and Stokes are trying to make this into Perry Mason. Or interpreting it on your own and even changing the language. It doesn't matter which exact guy actually deflated the balls both were in on it. This stuff might light your fire but it puts me asleep. So you can go back to the lunatic fringe where you belong.
Then just say that... Say you think 2 games is sufficient. Don't try to argue against the facts of the investigation. Like when you claim it's common or the things you are saying about Brady Just simply say you think the punishment should be 2 games and not the silly stuff you are trying to argue
If you didn't read it that's fine, but don't dig a deeper hole for yourself by making false claims or getting personal when someone points out that the investigation clearly says something.
If you were being truthful, you would have read the texts. That's arguably the most important piece of evidence they have. And if you read articles that summarized it, you would have stumbled upon them bc just about everyone included them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I think two games is enough. The punishment should fit the crime. I did read a lot of articles summarizing it written by journalists. And some of the report but not all of it. Too boring. I am no fan of Brady. If he gets more it's ok with me. But I'm not going to rag on him just because I hate him and his team.
Actually I did read some of the texts of Jastremski and McNally. The didn't say much. Typical texting of guys with some half truths and some goofing off. They were joking around about Brady (because he busted their chops about the over inflation in the Jets game). There is no doubt that they did it and Brady told them to do it. And there was compensation. I agree with that. But again clubhouse attendants get tips etc from players on a regular basis. Who knows how much more they got from Brady for deflating balls. It sounds like it was a part of their job. But I just don't think it's such a big deal. Bountygate to me was a much bigger issue.
Then when asked earlier why did you say and act otherwise? Keep backpedaling chief. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Did you read the entire report. I didn't but I know most of what it says. Plus I did read sections of it. I think I read at least six long articles about Deflategate since the judgment last week. And watched reports on ESPN, etc. My opinion: I'd give him 2 to 4. I think 2 is enough with a big fine attached. So you're attacking me and calling names. What should be the penalty then?
Yes, most don't realize McNally's job and location is key. He is the Officials locker room attendant, the proverbial inside man. They needed someone in there to get to the balls and his job does not involve inflating or deflating from what I surmise and that is why Jastremski has to get him a needle along with his bribes.
Yes I read the entire report twice actually. I've said repeatedly that I didn't think the initial offense was that bad and if the Patriots had fessed up initially they may have gotten away with only a fine. Instead it was Tom Brady scoffing in both press conferences and radio interviews, Bill Belichick doing a science lecture in front of the press and Robert Kraft demanding an apology from the NFL. Forced the hand of the NFL to investigate them for conspiring to break NFL rules (after having already been warned for a previous offense where they were heavily punished) and they were smartly found to have cheated to the degree that the NFL finds to be guilt worthy of punishment. You cannot punish them for this offense inside a bubble, the track record and previous penalties have to be taken into account, in addition to the refusal to cooperate with investigators and the concerted efforts to lie and distract from the facts of the situation. The results of the AFCC are immaterial, the question is did they conspire to break an NFL rule to obtain competitive advantage and it's not the first time. In addition, Goodell set precedent for team punishment in the face of ignorance with the Saints. And dealt them very heavy penalties at that. 1 year for Brady, 1 year for Belichick, 1st and 2nd round pick plus additional fines for player and team. Of course the Brady suspension will get decreased after appeal but the initial suspension is the real message sent. I know I'm talking to a wall here because I have seen all of this argued with you and you have ignored it and countered with a daft lack of sense, but there you go.
You don't know most of what it says. You know bits and pieces. You are missing fundamental details such as the fact that McNally's job has nothing to do with deflating footballs, which you were recently arguing was the case. You've been arguing points that you believe or assume to be facts but are not and can easily be disputed by looking at the fucking report. So basically you're talking out your ass and you actually seem to believe the bullshit you're spewing I'm a bit surprised how ridiculous you've been here. For most people I'd be completely amazed, but I believe you're at least partly retarded so I tend to give you some leeway. You also have an awful lot to say about a document you say isn't important. It is of course the document that is the basis of the discipline this thread is discussing. But it's not important to you because you've dreamed up your own story based on the bits and pieces that you were capable of digesting.
There are plenty who have stated they think 2 games is adequate suspension but they don't claim the payment from Br*dy was not a bribe or other nonsensical things. That is why they don't have a plethora of other posters telling them they are wrong.
For years we've heard the mantra from the NFL to "protect the shield". Protect the integrity of the game. Now would be a good time to either put up or shut up. Governor William J. Le Petomane: We've gotta protect our phoney baloney jobs, gentlemen!
Funny thing is that if Brady took a different stance in the beginning, it'd all pass within a day. All he had to say is something along the lines of "sorry, guys, it's kind of on me. I told them I like pressure as low as legally ok and was grilling them to get it there. Maybe too much grilling and the guys got overzealous." He says that, and he gets away with a nominal fine. No investigation, no report, no legacy questions. Arrogant cheating prick. Deserves everything that'll come his way.
