Jets select QB Bryce Petty in round 4

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  1. Charlie Kelly

    Charlie Kelly Well-Known Member

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    Or if your head coach has never disciplined a single player for anything
     
  2. Faux machine

    Faux machine Well-Known Member

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    I started to google search "Rex Ryan discipline" to try and find an example to contradict you and my phone auto corrected "discipline" into "learning disability."


    I'm done.
     
  3. DoubleDecker87

    DoubleDecker87 Well-Known Member

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    I love how it's portrayed as GENO missed the meeting and he's the only one when in reality he was one of a few teammates. THEY went out and lost track of time, it was careless but look the who the coach was.. its not like THEY were worried about Rexy making them "accountable." Bowles doesn't seem like a guy to let these things happen at least Jace Amaro doesn't think so.

    http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/sto...no-smith-others-missed-team-meeting-san-diego

    I'm not a fan of Fitz so I hope Geno does beat him out and I think he will play well with all these weapons. The worst thing that could happen is Petty getting destroyed by playing too early. The ideal scenario would be Fitz grooming the young guys, Geno playing well, and Petty inactive this year while grooming into the #2 for next year.
     
  4. Charlie Kelly

    Charlie Kelly Well-Known Member

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    Lol it's okay, I loved Rex as a coach for a long while but there were a few things he left me wanting for, that was one of them.
     
  5. Charlie Kelly

    Charlie Kelly Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, I wanted to respond to you seriously, but I have read too many of your angry self righteous jerk posts in the past week to really care to make the effort. You suck, guy.
     
  6. DoubleDecker87

    DoubleDecker87 Well-Known Member

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    But you just made an effort and that's so sad I was really looking forward to it.
     
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  7. pclfan

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    I'm not a Rex fan but he did discipline players and benched a few who played poorly or missed assignments like Milliner and Pryor. And it was to their betterment. But his team on the field blew assignments regularly, guys were constantly out of position. At times it was a joke. I remember one game they had to call time outs the first series because his team didn't know what the hell they were doing. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. But it's unfair to say he never disciplined players. He just didn't do enough of it.
     
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  8. Pocket Jet

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    LoL, nothing wrong with that at all !
     
  9. Pocket Jet

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    LOL, yeah he did a great job disciplining Geno after he couldn't read his watch correctly on the West Coast. He disciplined defensive players maybe, but then again, that was the only thing he knew.
     
  10. PulseJet

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    It's about standards. Rex held his players to a lower standard of professionalism than Belichick and the Patriots. Thats why I think the Jets the last few seasons underperformed to their talent level, particularly the defense. Yes Rex would discipline, but he would let players get away with stuff that Belichick or Coughlin never would put up with.
     
  11. Will

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    Here is an article from last September regarding discipline (or lack thereof under Rex - by the way when he was our HC I was a fan of his)
    Sheldon Richardson blamed himself for the time out that cost the Jets any chance of an upset in Green Bay, saying he saw offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg trying to call one and just wanted to make sure the referee heard him. Mornhinweg, in turn, seemed to blame the ref in a text message to Yahoo! Sports, saying that he was trying to get head coach Rex Ryan's attention over a formation problem, but then changed his mind when quarterback Geno Smith fixed the problem.
    “Ref called the TO anyway,” Mornhinweg said.
    But the real culprit here is the man in charge, even if he had nothing directly to do with this one. It seems like an easy storyline – Jets find another crazy way to lose! – but is anyone really surprised that a Rex Ryan team lacked discipline? This has been a problem for six years. Ryan has a wonderful defensive mind. He is an excellent motivator who has gotten the most out of his teams. He is a coach whose players respect him and, in many cases, genuinely seem to love him.

    He also has a shaky history of keeping them from doing the bonehead things that lose football games and, sometimes, torpedo entire seasons.
    The loss in Green Bay, a game that started brilliantly for the underdog Jets, is just another example. It wasn't just Richardson – who, we should remind readers, is DEFENSIVE TACKLE – whispering in the referee's ear when even Pop Warner players know that the head coach, and only the head coach, should call time outs. It was Muhammad Wilkerson showing an uncharacteristic lack of judgment, throwing a punch after a two-point conversion gave Green Bay a 24-21 lead and needing a police escort out of Lambeau Field. It was Damon Harrison getting flagged as the 12th man on the field (he was a half step from the sideline) to erase a David Harris interception in the third quarter that could have turned the momentum back to the visiting team.
    It was as if the Jets, who displayed poise and a smart game plan in the first 20 minutes of this trip, had football lobotomy sometime before halftime. Then again, it wouldn't be the first time that's happened, either.

    This is a team, under Ryan, that

    1. watched as Santonio Holmes put one foot on the ball and flap his wings like an eagle after a touchdown in Philadelphia – one that cut the Eagles' lead to a mere 18 points
    2. had no shortage of anonymous quotes from one teammate ripping another, most notably when Tim Tebow was the backup quarterback two years ago.
    3. Or even non-anonymous quotes, for that matter, as in Antonio Cromartie calling Patriots quarterback Tom Brady a naughty name.
    4. had a ridiculous number of penalties last season (108, to be exact), including 20 of them in one game – a victory, somehow, over the Bills – and are among the most penalized this season.
    5. that had to deal with his own inability to hold back – a middle finger at a martial arts event in 2009, a yelled obscenity to a Patriots fan that got caught on video in 2011 – although, in fairness, he seems to have learned his lesson.
    Ryan has plenty of the qualities you'd want in a head coach, but when you embrace a coach who brings a bag of cheeseburgers onto the field with the HBO cameras rolling, you're taking the bad with the good.
    The bad is what happened in Green Bay. It wasn't Ryan who screwed up in what will go down in Jets lore as The Time Out Game, but given the lack of discipline under his watch the past six years, it shouldn't surprise anyone.
     
  12. PulseJet

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    I think you might be taking this a little too seriously dawg.
     
  14. Faux machine

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    On topic: I looked around teh interwebz and couldn't find any pictures of Bryce Petty wearing a watch. Should we be concerned about his ability to tell time?
     
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  15. Charlie Kelly

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    I'm not surprised that you consider that "effort" considering the slop I have seen from you
     
  16. pclfan

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    Good coaches are sticklers for little details like missing or being late for meetings. Rex wanted to be liked by his players and was because he didn't harass them about bs issues. One of the reasons his team were losers.
     
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  17. Sixto

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    For me it's very simple. I googled Bryce Petty and read most articles. The consensus seems to be that he's smart, has a great work ethic, and great measurables (arm, ...). The big negative stated was that he's never worked in a pro style system so it's a gamble.

    Well, I'd rather gamble with a kid that looks the part and maybe can learn the pro level, and learn how to read defenses, then picking a guy who knows the system but doesn't have the height, weight, arm strength ...

    Yes, it's a gamble, but they're all a gamble, I'd just rather start with someone who is built the right way, rather then have a noodle arm for the next decade.

    Certainly worth the risk, especially with Chan as our OC.
     
  18. Big Cat

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    I tried. I really did. I went back to the 2014 NFL game rewind tapes with a clear mind to watch Geno play to see if there's anything to work with but he's just so bad. He just makes the most moronic decisions, even when they don't result in interceptions. The worst part is that he plays somewhat decent at the beginning of games but then he completely collapses under pressure. As the games came down the stretch and we needed the offense to make plays he just shit himself. There are so many 'panic' plays I saw out of him. He just doesn't have the instincts to play the position, nor the brains. (He still sprints backwards to take 20 yard sacks, almost always on 3rd downs in field goal range). There's a reason we lost so many close games last year, and he wore number 7.

    And it's really saying something because I'm usually an apologist for our quarterbacks; I was so high on Geno coming out of training camp last year. It took me until completely after the 2012 season to turn on Sanchez. I just can't take this kid anymore.

    On the bright side I watched Fitzpatrick with the Texans and I was pleasantly surprised. I went in with really low expectations and he kinda impressed me. His arm isn't nearly as weak as I thought, he's decently accurate and he makes good decisions. He has functional mobility, too. He's really boring but he's pretty much what we've been asking for out of the position: just don't fuck up. I don't think there's a question here. Start Fitz for this year and maybe next while you're trying to develop Petty, maybe sign one of the free agents next year to compete if you don't like what you see from Bryce.
     
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  19. xmscott

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    Excited to see what Petty can do come next season. A fan of the pick but don't need to see him on the field this season.
     
  20. Pocket Jet

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    WELL SAID
     

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