Yeah and I'm sure JJ Watt gets to play against single coverage all day long. Stats do matter, I know Suh plays double teams but if somebody wants to put him up with Watt then they need to justify it. Mo faces double teams a lot too and people want to trade him for some dumb reason
As for the OP's question, clearly we are forced to speculate in true off season fashion since all we can really know is that the Jets and Wilkerson have not come to an agreement. This could be for a couple of different reasons, but it is certainly possible the Jets and Wilkerson have a difference of opinion about what he is worth. Now is that because he's asking for Watt or Suh money? I have no idea. Perhaps he is asking for less but the Jets are also looking ahead at Richardson's situation, and wondering how much they can tie up on the DL before negotiating with him - Imo, I think Richardson is the more valuable player. But that's just my opinion. Whether a trade of Wilkerson makes sense in terms of the particulars of the deal depends on the particulars, obviously. But I think it makes sense for the Jets to at least consider trading him given what we know.
obviously (or maybe not so obvious) a lot will depend on who we take with the number 6 (if it's still 6) pick. If we take a beast of a pass rusher we will offer Wilkerson a decent but not extravegent deal. If he doesn't take it we will let him play out his contract and either franchise him (I doubt) or let him walk.
Exactly. For me, the best case scenario is Wilk signing a team friendly contract and Sheldon doing the same, let's be real...that's not going to happen. If it was, Wilk would already be signed to a 9-10M er deal. I'd guess he's wanting in the 13-15M a year range for 5-6 years. With Sheldon waiting in the wings and Revis as well we'd have 45M tied up in 3 players on defense. For me, if Wilk isn't going to budge, I'd take a high 2 and 3 this year and move on. Rotate Coples (his option was picked up), Douze and some of the other depth we have. This allows us to see what's Sheldon can do on his own and get some additional picks in a deep draft to restock...
Maybe the f.o. is waiting till after the draft and inevitable cuts that wil l follow so they can front load the contract as much as possible to be in better shape when sheldon cones due. maybe signing him now would give us less cap flexibility should someone unexpected come available. This is the nfl where deals are made at deadlines. People need to relax
Trading a home grown talent like Wilk for draft picks is something that a team with an established top 10 QB has the luxury of doing because they need to save room for QB money and offensive performance can balance the loss of talent a trade of Mo would really in, we don't have that luxury and need to keep all the talent we have until the day comes when we actually have QB, and that doesn't go for Mariota or Winston who could just as easily end up being JAGs or worse
agreed on the rationale for keeping Mo. i believe he is a top 5 interior lineman, and is just hitting his prime... that's a player i don't want to lose. the only way the Jets make a move imo, is if they see Mariota as being way better than a potential JAG. ie, landing a top 10-15 QB of their own..
If they think he isnt worth near as much as he's asking, he'll be traded. This discussion should probably be tabled until after the Jets, since thats when management said they were going to address his extension.
I think fans like the draft for some reason even though many of the players taken for a particular team will not be good players or even make it but many fans treat draft day like it is gameday so they want as many picks and prospects as possible. they'd like to get rid of a PB caliber player for the promise of getting a player they would hope is as good as Mo some day.
I disagree. Suh is a great player and might be number 2 overall behind Watt. But Wilk is not far behind. Wilkerson and Richardson graded out as the second and third best 3-4 DE's in football last year behind Watt
I agree that some fans like the draft because it makes their team relivent again. The potential to trade Mo is not connected to that for me, maybe some here but not be. We have invested heavily in the DL and developed our picks. Does Mo deserve to get paid, absolutely. But at a team friendly fair deal. The Jets have been able to hit on Mo, Harrison, Sheldon, Douz, Coples (who is more than serviceable as an DL) and have added depth outside of the organization since week 16. This scenario does not put Mo is a position of leverage and leads me to believe 1 of 2 things is happening behind the scenes. 1) Jets have low balled Mo or 2) Mo wants JJ money. If Mo and his agent aren't willing to budge but want a big deal, the best time for the Jets to shop him is now and leading up to the draft. That's why this conversation is so relevant right now and will continue to be until the draft is over. I would personally like Mo on a team friendly deal, if that can't haplen get what we can in a deep draft and keep our eyes on TC cuts to help replace the production. It's all about cap space friends...
of course my comment is not about 100% of the people, just a generalization how I see it. I could be wrong. where has it been said he wasn't Watt money? I think that was made up on here and he can ask for Bill Gates money, it's just a starting point in negotiations.
Perhaps the 4-12 train wreck of a season last year is why some of us want to find good players in the draft to replace some of the bums on last year's squad. I think Flo from progressive should have a talk with Wilk.
it's the same thing every year, pretend draft experts want picks at the expense of players who are actually good b/c draft day is like a SB to some folks.
Trading Mo Wilk to move up for Mariota, is like suggesting trading a Ferrari to move up to get that VW Bug....
You can draw a straight line from Riggins to Revis and stock an all star team with the talent the Jets have let get away in their prime. Richard Todd, Hugh Douglas, Keyshawn, Coles, Moss, JAbe, Vilma, etc. It's proven to be a terrible business model. Pay the man.
