Shelton's going in the first 20 I think. You trade down and take him with Philly's pick. And get their 2016 first round pick plus a 3rd rounder this year. But if we took Gurley or an O-lineman at 20 I don't complain.
Not a real lot guv, but I'm trying to learn your game because I live here now. I thought the question was ok, but hey, thanks for helping me want to hang around this fan site and try to contribute and learn a little more about NFL and my team, the NYJ.
Easy dude, take a chill. Just because a guy made a comment or question that you do not believe in, doesn't mean he/she lacks football knowledge. Last year is done and moving forward. Geno if he's our starter, all he needs to do is do better than last year and cut down on ints. I for one believe that the Jets have too many holes and lack some depth, that said, I think we should trade down.
I think if MM is still at #6 AND if Mac & Bowles doesn't want him, you have to make the trade and trade down and get couple of picks. Getting one extra quality player would do the Jets good. But I am with others if MM is available at #4 and or #5 I expect someone to jump ahead of the Jets...
if there is a qb who you believe will be a franchise qb you do whatever you have to do to get him. if you are wrong you will pay with your job. but you HAVE to do whatever you need to to get him. now i dont know what the jets think of mariota so who knows what we will do.
Someone is going to fall hard on Draft Day and it could possibly be Mariota. I don't think he's going at 2 but it's very possible he falls to us and nobody wants to trade up. Bowles even said recently that most teams love to trade down but there's usually no deal to be made. I think Chip will stick with Bradford and don't believe he's been offered 1st round picks for him. Imo the Jets will not select Mariota.
What ever we do we better not hit and miss on Mariota if he is available at 6. I say we will pick him. If we don't I'll still support the pick if it is a can't miss one.
How many games have we seen from Geno? How many games has he been so bad that he cost us games? He has more turn overs in 29 starts the Sanchez and Sanchez was run out of town for being bad. What makes anyone think Geno can cut down on his turnovers. If people do more power to them but he has been giving every chance and he sucks. Don't believe in fools gold in the Miami game because for every good game I can 4 times as many places where he has cost games and missed open receivers and made bad reads. What killed the last gm was Geno's inability to develop and the gm's inability to fill the roster with talent. This GM has filled most of the positions that were open and found a QB that can at-least be a game manager. Is he going to take us to a super bowl more then likely no, but he is a stop gap so we don't need to see Geno throw once in a game and make the wrong read and throw into double coverage while another receiver is open on a sideline route. Or to see Geno throw a perfect game against the bills where he went 3 for 3 to the other team. The game against Miami a team that had packed in for the season is just fools gold. He is not that good, also being said he is not as bad the bills game but 41 turn overs in 30 career starts is enough evidence that he has more issues taking care of the ball then you can blame on having poor receivers, crap in 30 game she should have known to throw the ball away if his receivers are that bad. Qb is the most important position on the field and Geno has proven he can not play it reliably enough to even be a game manager I have no issues trading down, but if mariota is there you grab him and run. You don't start him yr one you roll with Fitz. And if you miss on him then you miss on him but at least you tried and you keep trying to till you find a franchise qb. Take the qb and run or the passrusher if the qb is not there. And keep drafting 1 qb per yr till you find one. This regime rightfully so has no ties to Geno and even if they take a qb at pick 6 and he fails as long as they have a stop gap qb then guess what, he has not sunk your team. As far as holes outside of Oline this team while not stacked is solid, most people should recognize this is a two yr process. If the qb is gone at 6 then you take the olb/de that team has been missing and take a flier on UCLA's qb in the second or third round. I want Qb that at least can manage games in a perfect world a qb makes the players around him better and elevates the team. Geno in 30 games has sucked the life out of this team and the fans. He has killed the Jets careers of one coaching staff and help get a gm fired after two yrs. No tell me why an sane person would want another yr of Geno on the slight hope he may be able to have a good season which for might elevate him from bad to maybe average when there is chance you can find great.
Praying to God and all the Saints in Heaven that we trade up to get MM. Trading down is an Idiotzik move and would be a terrible Cross to Bear for this franchise for years to come which some posters like myself have fewer to look forward to. If posters here want to waste our position at 6 with their convoluted logic of how other positions are more important then that speaks to defensive player hero worship, overthinking, or just plain stupidity. The fact that GSmith is still admired for something reflects how pathetic fans are holding on to their denial of the facts given his overall play. Fitz should hold the fort till MM ready. Happy Passover and Glorious Easter to all.
So far Mac has almost spent the entire cap. We'll see if it translates on the field. On paper we're better but I'm not getting the wow factor other than Revis and that includes Marshall who the Bears gave away. Last time we got a supposedly no. 1 receiver that cheap was Holmes who wasn't worth all of the baggage. While I get the feeling that Mac doesn't love Mariota he might (like his owner) cave into popular sentiment. The major reason they gave a contract like that to Revis. I don't really think that Mac wanted to overpay him so much. It was all fan and press pressure and the owner finally threw up his hands and shouted "Just pay the motherfuckers, already!" So I can and can't see them selecting Mariota. Mac isn't going to repeat Idzik's Pr mistakes and allow Woody to put the blame on him and fire him, too after 2 seasons. He's probably too afraid to really do what he thinks is the best plan for the long term of the franchise when he sees fans like you, the venomous NY press and an owner who shirks off any of the blame.
If both QBs are gone why on earth would anybody want to trade up to six? There isn't a single player left in the draft after the qbs worth trading up that high for and if there a qb there at 6 I am confident they will take him.
According to Bowles trading down is the dream scenario of every franchise. The problem is nobody wants to trade up (in the upper regions of the first round). The smart franchises do it if they can get a deal. There's a lot of competition to trade down. So it's not Idiotzik to trade the no. 6 for two lower first rounders esp when there's a shit load of good players with high ratings. Is Mariota worth it. Basically he's not considered a slam dunk to be a franchise QB. I'm not going to throw a shit fit if we take him. But it'll take guts for Mac to pass on him considering the pressure to get a good Qb and get rid of the horrendous Geno.
Cooper, White, Parker, Fowler, Beasley, Shelton, Ray, Dupree, Sheriff, Collins, Peat are all guys that some team could fall in love with.
If Mariota is available at 6 and we either trade back or just don't select him and he turns out to be a good Qb out of the gate and we're stuck with Geno and he sucks you know they're going to be screaming for Macs's head. The backlash will be unbelievable. I won't be a part of that lynch mob. It's a legit decision not to select him.
While I could understand it if he didn't take Mariota, I'm not sure that I'd agree that it would be a "legit" decision, but rather one made out of fear and wanting his first draft pick ever to be a "safe" one.
I think there's more pressure on Mac to select Mariota. Esp if he's there at 6. If he doesn't take him there will be more criticism even if he takes Cooper. And then there's the 20-20 hindsight crowd. If Cooper gets injured they'll blame it on Mac. Or if he's a slow developer and Mariota is a fast learner. If things don't break right the GM is a moron.
