Rodney Harrison Slams Geno

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  1. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    I quoted the correct post, when you wrote that I should do more research on Rodney, I jumped the gun and thought you were referring to him being a dirty player because most of the Rodney bashing is either that, or the fact that he got busted using HGH.

    the guy was an excellent football player, I can give credit where it's due, even if its a player from another team.
     
  2. nyjunc

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    we all realize Geno is not very good but we did win 8 games w/ him w/ a much les talented team 2 years ago. to say we will win 5-6 games w/ him is asinine.

    it's hard to take Rodney seriously when he is pumping up Matt Cassell.
     
  3. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    While I don't want to get into a 20 page discussion with you, we tend as fans to forget that 2 of those games in the 8-8 season were given to the jets by awful penalties called on the opposition.

    Take those 2 awful game changing penalties away and the Jets are, wait for it...6-10.

    That's exactly what Geno will give us again, anothe 5 or 6 win season, I'm all for hope but reality has to set in at some point.
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    sometimes you win games you should lose and sometimes you lose games you should win. we won 8 games, not our fault the TB defender made a bonehead play and the NE game doesn't get to OT if not for a TD by us being called back.

    take a bad decision by Seattle away and they are SB champs, take a blown call at SF for NYG in 2011 and they lose in the title game. bad calls happen, bad penalties happen. we were 8-8.
     
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    So now we're playing the take away game?
     
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    But that's only the half of it. Harrison also said this:

    "The Jets are, all of a sudden, on a high thinking they're going to win a championship."

    When did they "all of a sudden" say that? Another invention that lazy, New England-centric trolls like Rodney Harrison casually throw out there, as if to perpetute the notion that even with the new regime, it's business-as-usual with the Jets and that the Rex-like bluster and "going to win a championship" guarantees are still the order of the day in Florham Park. Well the truth is, the Jets' GM and HC have been very measured in their comments rendering Harrison's comment as just more pot-stirring, amaturish bullshit from a troll and a lying one at that.
     
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  7. zace

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    Dude hes one of the worst analyst on tv. He and Dungy suck. Harrison has no idea what hes talking about at all. While im not Geno is god, hes not even close to the worse QB in the nfl. We dont need a HOF QB to win. Our team isnt built that way.

    I get that everyone wants that next great QB, but the reality is most teams dont have it and its not their to be found. So we play good defense, limit our mistakes and this team can make the playoffs easy. Problem is everyone see what other teams are doing and try to do that. We have our own identity here and I dont mind it one bit.
     
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    http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-...4779840/rodney-harrisons-thoughts-on-afc-east

    Matt Cassell- 33-38 as starting QB in this league including playing w/ team that was UNDEFEATED a year earlier w/ Brady. Outside of that season w/ a team that was undefeated before him his record is 23-33. Geno Smith is 11-18.
     
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    You make n sense whatsoever. We'll win at least win 8 games with defense alone. We have the top defensive line and backfield in the nfl.
     
  10. Red Menace

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    The 8-8 record is not a reflection of Geno being a good QB, it's a reflection of different factors that take place during a game.

    He has been atrocious for this team, and it's his terrible play that got us an 8-8 record with an easy schedule.

    Fans want to give him credit for being 8-8, I prefer to look at the whole picture versus an absolute.

    With a better QB we go 10-6 or 11-5 and make the playoffs.

    He is what is holding this team back, there are very good pieces in place and the most important piece needs to be replaced.
     
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    never said it was a reflection of Geno but it shows we can win games with him and we have a much more talented roster now than we did in 2013. does that guarantee as many or more wins? Nope but we should have a better team.

    Geno has been bad but he now has more talent to work with than he has ever had and actually has top half of the league talent to work with. to say we win 5-6 games isn't being fair and then to say Buffalo is catching NE b/c of the Cassell move is downright hiliarious.
     
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    We're not even sure Geno will get the chance to start. He could either get beaten out by Fitz in training camp or if the Jets draft Mariota be out of the picture. He's only in year 3 so it's not impossible he could do better. btw I don't blame the lack of talent for Geno's inefficiency. He had good games, too and with the same personnel. A big part of this is how he works with Gailey.
     
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    You know me better than that, I'm not one to what if every situation, but the jets were the beneficiary of some horrendous calls that if they were called against the jets, this board would not live them down.

    I will also say that I'm not playing the take away game, but the add on game, I believe with the easy schedule the jets had, a better QB would have gotten us into the playoffs, the jets lost a lot of games that they should have won because of poor QB play.

    JMO
     
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    Both calls were correct though.
     
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    Zace, the defense will not win us 8 games this year, they will keep us in many games but the 3 and outs that Geno will subject this offense to will leave them on the field all game and they will eventually crack.

    We have seen this before, unless the QB position is upgraded its history repeating itself.
     
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    Are you serious? Our defense got us to 2 afc championship games. Both of which we shoulda won if Rex wasnt such an idiot.
     
  17. zace

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    Make no mistake about it, Geno starts. Maybe nobody on this board wants to hear it, but he starts. Why shouldnt he? Who do we have thats better? Fitz is what he is. Genos a young qb whos shown that he can plan hes just inconsistent. Im not calling him the second coming, but im just not sure people are being reasonable here in what they think is happening or going to happen. People were clamoring for Vick......till he actually got im and people were like uggg hes not really a better option.
     
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    I don't know about you but I don't want another Mark Sanchez moment. You'd think this organization could learn from it's mistakes. Like Mark he's started almost every game since coming to the Jets. He's had plenty of opportunity to prove to the league how bad he is. There has to be drastic improvement for him to hit the field this season. Fitz is a better option until proven otherwise.
     
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    please don't compare Mark to Geno.
     
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  20. zace

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    How do you figure? What has fitz done? Play on a better Houston team? What happened when he got that contract in Buffalo? You just bury your head in the sand to that? Geno did what most young qbs do, struggle their second year. You expext him to light it up with guys like David Nelson? Decker was hurt, ol was downright terrible, and run game was inconsistent. But somehow you think Fitz is better?
     

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