There are Dolphin fans who think Dan Marino sucked. Too funny what some idiots will say in a message board. _
The big thing for Wilson is his football intelligence and leadership. While he's about to be paid big time by Seattle RG3 was benched last year and replaced by Colt McCoy. He doesn't get along with his head coach. And could be on his way out at Washington.
+1000. And he has a great arm and is massively athletic and clutch. Anyone suggesting he's not on his way to being an elite franchise QB is a fool. Calling him a game manager is asinine. _
Again, note the different situations. Russell is in a much more basic offense with quick easy reads against a stacked box. RG3 did just as well if not better than Wilson did his first year running a similar type of offense. Difference is, Seattle's offense hasn't changed much and Russell is still doing the same type of stuff. Washington changed their style of offense in RG3's second year and Jay Gruden came in in RG3's third year and installed a traditional pocket passing offense. It could very well be that Wilson could operate that kind of offense better than RG3, but we don't know that for a fact as Wilson hasn't been asked to do so.
Actually, the list would be a bit longer than three. Drew Brees Ben Roethlisberger Andrew Luck Peyton Manning Matt Ryan Aaron Rodgers Philip Rivers Matthew Stafford Tom Brady Eli Manning Tony Romo Jay Cutler Andy Dalton BTW, "game manager" isn't necessarily a negative term. Tom Brady was a "game manager" his first couple of seasons as were some of the other guys on this list. Don't know if you watch NFLN or put much stock in some of the talking heads (former players) on the shows, but even they talk about this in reference to Wilson.
I had typed something up addressing this very thing in one of the many revisions of this post. I guess I should have left it there. The list isn't about accomplishments and it doesn't speak to how good a QB is. Some on the list are great, others are meh.
Big Ben, isn't going to win a game by himself, Dalton isn't going to(almost) single handlely win a game by himself, the same apllies to Rivers, Eli, Ryan, and most of your list... and yes I don't put any stock into the talking heads at NFLN. They're spouting nonsense for the majority of their time on air.. "game manager" is a foolish, negative term, and I don't even think you READ my post; if this were the case, you would not have posted this list. As I said watch Wilson's flim and get back to me.
That could be true. And an example of how a "supposed" franchise Qb can set back your team. This guy has been struggling since his rookie year and it's hurt the Redskins. So again I'm not a big proponent of putting your eggs all in one basket on a young Qb. In this case the guy has shown talent so maybe he can reverse his regression. It's not a slam dunk either way.
He can turn it around. But it's not all injuries. He was benched last year because of poor play and problems with the new head coach. Their owner is a bigger meddler than Woody. And apparently RG3 is the kind of guy who goes to the owner first not the head coach.
The thing about Geno (and I think most of you would agree) is that it's too early to just get rid of him. With Qbs some of them take a longer period to learn how to play the position. And make smart decisions on the field. So far it looks like his future is as a backup: a guy who can occasionally but not consistently move a team and win games. He makes too many mistakes to be considered a viable starter. But this is year 3 of his career, he has almost 30 starts and with new coaches maybe he can put it all together this season and be at least satisfactory which will win games. Without those critical mistakes he has the talent to be a satisfactory to ok to good NFL starter. But we can't tank a season for this guy. I would start Fitz and then see how things go. Unless of course Fitz is injured or the coaching staff believes in Geno and he has a good preseason. So if I'm Gailey I approach Geno conservatively. Not ridiculously like last year when in a game they only let Geno throw 8 passes. But a ground and pound variation which I think he can run.
I don't disagree about the owner and I actually don't like RG3 because he's a diva, but I still think he's a supremely gifted player but still wasn't right last year. He just doesn't have the football IQ to be an elite QB. _
My point is just that we don't have to abandon all hope if we are stuck with Geno Smith or Ryan Fitzpatrick at QB. Plenty of teams have won super bowls with average or even below average QB's, that's an undeniable fact. So I agree we should try to get our hands on a franchise QB (though I doubt Mariota is one). I just think that our team will be much better than many fans think even if we are "stuck" with Geno or Fitz at QB.
I'm not abandoning hope but I'm also not sticking my head in the sand or praying for a miracle that we somehow have the Ravens defense that allowed Dilfer to get a ring. We're going to be a middle of the pack team for the next decade until we get a top flight QB. Not below average. Not average. Not mediocre. Not middle of the pack. That's an awful plan. The only thing that wins consistently in this league is a true franchise QB. _
