John Henry has a paramour too. Must be something to do with those cold NE winters I keep hearing about.....
I hate admitting anything nice about the Patriots and esp. Kraft but the facts are they're competent. IMO the reason for the cheating is because Belichick thinks he can get away with it and considers it to be a part of competition. He actually enjoys it. You can get the same admission from guys doing time in Leavenworth. They all think it was ok to do whatever crime they committed.
easy to be competent when you strike gold with a HOF QB in the 6th round..... without Brady, Belichick would be a career defensive coordinator and Kraft would still be seeking a ring. He wouldn't be any different than Johnson other than the stadium he built sucks less... America likes winners & likes to prop up the moral reputations & competencies of winners as if they go hand and hand. The cheating stuff, the cheating on his wife stuff, the extensions to murderers stuff, etc. all gets brushed under the rug because they win. They wouldn't win what they have if they didn't get lucky as shit with Tom Brady. In other words - - Kraft's dick wouldn't be in the mouth of the media, the commissioner, and many fans like you if not for a certain 6th round draft pick... (it would probably still be in the mouth of his barely legal broad though because she only cares about the $$$$$)
Belichick could win with Geno. He already did the season Brady was out for the year and Cassel started. I hate saying this but unfortunately it's true. He's a great coach like it or not.
Woody may actually have to be charged with some form of tampering because HE WAS TELLING THE TRUTH!! Haha, Revis is back baby!
This is what pisses me off the most about this piece of shit. He presents himself and his team as a bunch of choir boys and yet this is one of the most disgusting public displays i've witnessed. The worst part is the media actually congratulates him for helping end the lock out while she was on her deathbed. There are 31 other owners, go be a husband you shmuck.
That's besides the point pcl. The point is they and their "Patriot Way" b.s. should not above being called out on - mocked and slandered at every opportunity, both Shenocca-Belichick and Krafty Bob. However imature that comes across, this much remains: it just plain feels good. : )
Yeah like on Deflategate. Maybe and probably Roger is afraid of Kraft who behind the scenes is most likely threatening him and his 44 mil.
Neither what Woody (ignorantly) said or Kraft just did is really tampering, if you go by this. "Out of our anti-tampering policy, the term tampering as used within the NFL refers to any interference by a member club with the employer/employee relationship of another club or any attempt by a club to impermissibly induce the person to seek employment with that club or with the NFL." Technically, you could make a case that Woody was, (and Goodell will do his buddy Bob a favor by concurring) I guess. But if you look at things honestly, Woody was trying to explain himself in the face of 2 or 3 consecutive questions about Revis and sort of justify himself in the eyes of the fan base and to get the reporters to quit asking him questions about Revis. It's not as if he brought up Revis or had some pre-meditated plan to bust out with that at the press conference as part of a ploy to get Revis to come back.
As much as I detest the Patriots, I can't see where in any of those statements that Robert Kraft tampered with Revis. He said they made Revis an offer when he was a free agent, he didn't say they're still interested in him after he signed with the Jets.
I don't know for sure but I am pretty sure you can't make ANY public comments about a player under contract to another team.
Based upon the rule he tampered. Of course you are correct, within the context of his statement he did not as he was referring to his previous negotiations with Revis and the contract. The same situation applied to Woody as he was responding to questions about Revis from when he was a FA. The point I was trying to make was that IF according to Patsies fans that Johnson tampered in the strictest interpretation of the rule devoid of context, then scumbag Kraft just did the same thing. Of course the difference is that Kraft has Goodell and the media in his pocket and Johnson doesn't. Consequently, as the Patsies have systemically demonstrated for the past 15 years, they operate beyond the confines of the rules imposed by the league on the rest of the NFL. This is because Kraft is the true power behind the NFL throne and Goodell is just his highly-paid lackey.
Based upon the rule, he tampered: Public/Private Statements.Any public or private statement of interest, qualified or unqualified, in another club’s player to that player’s agent or representative, or to a member of the news media, is a violation of this Anti-Tampering Policy. (Example of a prohibited comment: “He’s an excellent player, and we’d very much like to have him if he were available, but another club holds his rights.”) All clubs should be aware that improper disclosure of confidential trade discussions with another club may be a violation of this section on prohibited public statements.
I wish some team would tamper with Geno Smith. But based on the official rule definition, we know that ain't happening any time soon.
He meant that in 2013, not having to pay Revis enabled us to keep and sign other players that we otherwise might not have been able to afford. And in 2014, not paying Revis $15m or whatever meant that our cap space was higher than it would have been if we'd had Revis on the team. That unused cap space actually did roll over to 2015. I think people are critical of it because on the one hand he was having the team put memorial patches on their uniforms, as if he was completely crushed after losing his soulmate... yet two seconds later he publicly has a new girlfriend. It makes him seem insincere, and it just looks bad. The solution is to wait a year before you go public that you're dating. Just let people assume you're being celibate, and then a year later, by all means go ahead and fill up the owner's box with the Swedish track team, announcing that you've recently entered a deep and meaningful relationship with the team.
That can't be the rule, otherwise you wouldn't be allowed to mention another team's players at all. Reporter: "How are you planning on game-planning against Tom Brady this year?" Head Coach: "I'm sorry, I cannot answer any questions about players under contract with other teams." Yet we know that in press conferences, Rex Ryan mentioned other teams' players all the time. So does every head coach. The year before the Colts got Andrew Luck, Bill Belichick was asked basically about whether the Colts could compete against them considering how terrible they were. Belichick was taken aback and looked mildly offended, saying that Jeff Saturday is one of the best centers of all time, and mentioning a bunch of other Colts that he thought were good. Again - not tampering. Where it becomes tampering is if you say "We want this guy on our team", if he's on another team. And you can't get around that rule by couching it in hypotheticals, like saying "oh, if they cut him, we're interested." That's the tampering rule. The tampering rule also applies to private conversations as well. But you have to mention the opponents' players when you're coaching your team. "Alright, the Dolphins have Suh and Wake, so we've gotta make sure we get the ball out very quickly" is not tampering, whether you say it in public or privately. Where Woody Johnson got into trouble was with the very last sentence of his Revis mini-speech. He was completely fine up until he said "I'd love to have Revis back." At that point, it technically became tampering. That's the key difference between what Johnson said, and what Kraft said.
Woody's statement was referring to his previous comments. Taken out of context, yes it could be construed as tampering, but within the context it was not.
Ok, but look at the results of those two years because we didn't and whatever players it allowed us to keep or sign obviously didn't make a difference..of course the complete disaster of maybe 16 or 17 of the 19 draft picks Idzik made might have something to do with that too.
Hopefully there are a whole bunch of people from here over on the Cheatriots site blowing this way out of proportion like they did here over Johnson's comments a few weeks ago.
