Wasn't debating Sheldon's comment or that it was "common knowledge", just the interpretation of the effect Mo's contract had on other players on the field production. Hopefully we can put this behind us and have more positive interactions in the future, I don't think either of us want to be going back and forth and getting personal, our own team is often frustrating enough and we have better target to direct our ire towards (NE, MIA, BUF)! Cheers mate!
Again, for the record, I never said it affected on the field production. I don't know where you got that from. I'm certainly willing to put it behind us. I'd much rather have respectful, positive interactions. Yes, the Jets are frustrating enough. Cheers and welcome to the board!!!!
Revis, Harris, Cro (if they signed him which is what the post was about), Mangold, D'Brick, Mo Wilk extension (if it happens), Sheldon Richardson extension (will happen), all the other draft picks from 2012 to 2014 who are any good will come due in 2016 and 2017, etc. The Jets currently have $36.75M in dead money potential for 2016 for players over 30 years of age. Nick Mangold doesn't count a penny against that. The Pats have $20M in dead money potential for over 30 players in 2016. Tom Brady has $12M of that. The Bills have $17M in dead money potential for players over 30 in 2016. The Fins, who have spent like drunken sailors in a port call over the last few years have $19.5M in dead money potential for players over 30 in 2016. This stuff matters. We just suffered through two crappy cap-constrained years. We're building up two crappy constrained years in 2017 or 2018 at the latest and we're no closer to the Super Bowl now than we've been in the last 4 years.
I think I see where you are getting this: If Revis, Harris, and D'Bric all need to be cut next year, that means we have 35mm in dead money. We are banking on these 3 in addition to Pryor, Skrine, Decker, and Richardson to be producing for the next 2 years. If that doesn't happen, we're in cap hell so to speak. I for one think the odds are in our favor.
right, Br4dway has a strict policy that every 30 year old player needs to be taken behind a barn and put out of their misery before their aged wrinkly bodies deteriorate like magic due to hitting the big 3-0, regardless of individual injury history.
Why do you assume because somebody is over 30 they will be cut? Who cares how much potential dead money there is? Come back when the potential becomes the fact.
This is the NFL. Look at the teams that are successful over time. They take their over 30 players and let most of them go a year early instead of committing cap to them moving forward. Haloti Ngata is one of the best defensive linemen in football. The Ravens moved him along instead of re-signing him. Ty Law was one of the best CB's in football. The Patriots moved him along instead of re-signing him. Richard Seymour was one of the best defensive linemen in football. That Pats traded him as soon as 30 and big cap numbers became reality. This is how you manage things as a good organization in the NFL. This is what you do.
The argument is nonsense especially when 23M of that 36 the Jets have is for Revis and you can bet the house Revis won't be cut before the 2016 season starts..so then what is the number. 13? Who cares?
Yes but these are long-term deals we're making here with a lot guaranteed. Really locks up a lot of potential cap room for Wilk and Rich.
If Wilkerson doesn't get an extension next year he only has himself to blame. Whatever he is asking for, it was more than our front office wanted to pay.
That's not going to help us though if he walks and all we get at best is a 3rd round comp pick. We're still down a good well executed 1st round pick after only 5 seasons of play and just as he enters his prime. Odds are pretty good we're active in free agency next year also because we have an aging roster at this point. So we might not even get the comp pick.
I really hope the Jets have a solid plan at this point. It's been a long time since we were really relevant and if they blow this infection point it's going to be as long again before we are relevant.
The Jets have him under contract for 2015 and can franchise him if need be in 2016. Depending on his rate (I think 12M for DL), he could get franchised again in 2017 at a 20% increase.
Cumberland has been a real disappointment. There's no reason to expect significant improvement from him. I would play Amaro and Sudfield.
If Jets want to go deeper, they can convert salaries of Nick, Brick & Decker. That could net another $10-12MM, but pushes out cap savings. Per Bassett
